Ulimate weapon throw barb?!

[snurrfint]

edit; Yeah, I know I spelled Ultimate wrong. If someone can change this I'd be happy.

Here's the build I wanted to discuss with you.

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculato...kRP!ZYf!cbaZYb

"What? Dread bomb!! That will never work. One throw will drain all you fury and then your f*cked!"

Up until patch 1.0.3 I agree. But with patch 1.0.4 not so much.

We all know that it very easy to get a belt with "-5 weapon throw fury cost" from patch 1.0.3. But now have a look at these babies.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/maras-kaleidoscope
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/stone-of-jordan

With a perfectly rolled kaleidoscope or any combination of stone of jordan and kaleidoscope that gives you at least -5 fury cost of weapon throw will make it possible to reduce the cost to 0 (zero, nothing, nada). Expensive? Yes! Impossible: No!

If your lucky to get your hand on all of these items, dread bomb will still drain all your fury. But what does it matter when you can throw a new one for free?

So the cycle is to:
1. Pop "War cry" and then "Battle Rage - Into the fray". Now you can start throwing those corpses!
2. First weapon throw will hit for (130% + 3%*40(remaining fury)) * 1.10 (No Escape) = 290% weapon dmg in a whooping 12y radius!
3. Keep throwing your free Dread bombs! Whenever you crit with it you'll have a chance 50%(proc coefficient) chance to gain 14 fury from "No escape" and 50% chance to get 15 fury from "Into the fray". Whenever you proc one of these, which you will do a lot, you next dread bomb will do 45%*1.10 more dmg for each proc.
4. Use ancient spear to heal up and generate fury for next dread bomb. With 50% crit chance, which is easy to get with this build, you will have a 50% chance to reset the CD with "No Escape", and you will pretty much heal up to full hp with 2 straight crits with this. I know for a fact because I use it right now.
4. Use leap for kiting and escape, and WoTB for insane boost in dmg.

Prefered stats: - fury cost for weapon throw > crit chance > crit dmg > str > armor/resist > vitality > anything else you want.

Gear: I think one handed axe or mace with a lot of crit dmg and a shield with high crit chance is the way to go, but it's not required.

What do you guys think? Could be pretty fun! Do you think it will work at all?

If someone wants to spend some money on this, in 1.0.4, and try it out I would be very happy to hear the results.

[DarlosND]

I've often fantasized about men's bodies all over the place.

Wait that came out wrong.

I've often thought it'd be fun to be able to throw Dread Bomb continuously. So I guess this would work. Do you normally have to pay the base 10 fury to use Dread Bomb? Does reducing a fury spender's cost to zero actually mean you can use it with no Fury?

If so, then I think we've got a deal. Now I just have to wait for the auction house to actually make these things available and not cost 10s of millions.

[Karth]

If that works, that will be pretty cool. I suppose someone else will find out before me; I kinda burned a bunch of my money on bad speculation before 1.04; I'm effectively broke now, and the new items I've found so far aren't exactly selling well.

[Tryzx]

Just tested this build with the ricochet rune for weapon throw instead of dread bomb since I don't have the required legendaries.

Into the fray and no escape, with 48% crit, allows you to cast weapon throw for as long as you want. You never run out of fury.

However, I find the killing speed to be too low. Maybe dread bomb is way better with a reduced fury cost.

[DarlosND]

Just tested this build with the ricochet rune for weapon throw instead of dread bomb since I don't have the required legendaries.

Into the fray and no escape, with 48% crit, allows you to cast weapon throw for as long as you want. You never run out of fury.

However, I find the killing speed to be too low. Maybe dread bomb is way better with a reduced fury cost.

Yep. Even if you throw it with no Fury, you're still getting the base 130% damage spread over a large area. And then if you get fury for any reason you're doing way more. That beats Ricochet by a mile.

Also seems like a fine 2H build. Seems like we're starting to figure out quite a few of these. Which is great, considering how high 2H weapons can roll stats now.

I saw a 2H axe with something like 230 strength, 140% crit damage, and 1600 LoH. Crazy man.

[kestegs]

This sounds really cool. I may keep my eyes open for affordable gear for this. Although I expect it will be tough to find.

[snurrfint]

Just tested this build with the ricochet rune for weapon throw instead of dread bomb since I don't have the required legendaries.

Into the fray and no escape, with 48% crit, allows you to cast weapon throw for as long as you want. You never run out of fury.

However, I find the killing speed to be too low. Maybe dread bomb is way better with a reduced fury cost.

This is a relativly common build and it is probably one of the best ranged builds what so ever. Barbs get 30% dmg reduction as a class benefit, so keeping distance + 30% reduction is pretty epic. Dmg is definitly not low with a lot of crit dmg. I have around 40k base dps. But my weapon throws ctits for 150'000. Want to try dread bomb though!!

This is my thrower barb atm http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/s...4/hero/7114429


Btw, dread bomb always cost 10 fury as a base, and then consumes the rest of the fury for dmg. If you have -10 fury cost Im pretty sure you can throw it for free, but it will consume all your fury as dmg regardless.

If you have 0 fury, dread bomb will do 130% dmg. The skill is pretty slow, but if you can spam it I think you'll get use to it and can aim it pretty easily. You really dont need to hit with it though since it's free. Just spam.

[snurrfint]

Maybe there is a hidden cap that prevents us from getting 0 and the minimum fury cost is 1. Then we're effed.

[Such Violent Storms]

Maybe there is a hidden cap that prevents us from getting 0 and the minimum fury cost is 1. Then we're effed.

Not really, even if this is the case, which it probably isn't, you gain fury from taking damage and can gain regeneration from the IK set, so 1 fury isn;t hard to get.

But anywho, Dread Bomb is awesome, I like using it with Run Like the Wind instead of leap, and all you really have to do is get used to the trajectory.

[ronaldallan]

I agree. Killing speed is actually very good. Ricochet targets 3, it's like doing a cleave except you're doing it from a distance. The exciting new weapon post patch is the Sever. Sever on main, Spear on the off-hand, with life steal belt, you basically crit for millions on the last blow AND life steal up to your max hp. I usually heal 20k-40k after enemy kill. Sever also has a built-in damage to Demons. So if you're farming Act 3 for efficiency, most mobs are demons, so you do extra damage, oftentimes needing 1 to 2 shots to kill a white mob. And every kill heals you back to full.

Also, I stack up on movement speed and attack speed. You always need to keep your distance and with 2 attacks per second, you're looking at a lot of flying axes.