Paragon System Update from Blizzard

**Steven Hazani** · 22-08-2012, 15:35

I also love how he says that then complains when plots are predictable for exactly that reason.

Obvious troll, and all that.

**Dacar92** · 22-08-2012, 15:54

Ok, I remember that thread and the posts. If he has views on that subject that are not ours that's his prerogative. See, sometimes things take care of themselves around here. We now know who he is and how he feels about certain types of people. We will remember, too. But don't think we should address it here further. Please get back on topic. If it's possible.

**Steven Hazani** · 22-08-2012, 16:09

Right. Well, here.

Originally Posted by Steven Hazani

Look at everything I said. Particularly the part right after that. Context matters. As it is extremely unlikely any PvM element would give the game purpose as higher gear checks have clearly already been poorly accepted, that means PvP.

And while PvP games are certainly not the only ones being sold, when you look at ARPGs they all follow the same formula:

You play just to find items. That's the only real reason to play as they've never offered in depth gameplay. But the level of items you need to beat the game is significantly lower than the highest possible. So why keep looking, if there is nothing to do with it? And the thing to do with it usually ends up being killing other players.

As I have said before I personally have zero interest in PvP in a non skill based game. However many do, and that drives the market for farming, giving the PvM a purpose as well.

**Simfish** · 23-08-2012, 05:00

Originally Posted by Appl

You misunderstood me.
I am NOT suggesting that the process is not fun (or fun). What I am saying is... for each individual player to assess that him/herself. I recognize differences in individual intake of entertainment of any form. For StevenG it is not. For you, maybe it is. I hope i made that clear this time for you.

And again, i mentioned it on my previous post. I am not addressing it at preferential level in which yours and mine may differ. I am looking at it as a feature that is relatively a small portion of the whole diablo 3 experience. Do you get what i am saying here? Does that one feature which is extra paragon level which is a small part of the whole package, strong enough to alleviate what Diablo 3 lacks as perceived by the numerous of those who complain, or in a brink, or already quit the game, or in decision making process in buying the game.

You miss the point of the analogy as well. The soup isn't normally given. You don't know about it, it is not advertised, but today they have special after you already choose to dine the main course (which is the reason you visit the restaurant)... which is the free soup... just for today.

Let me give you another one. Let's use this...
I am enrolling you in a frequent flyer program. One that gives you 200$ rebate discount on your next purchase after flying with a certain A airlines 100000000 miles. It makes you more likely to fly with that airline, yes. But, it does not necessarily make you fly for no reason just for the sake of flying or looking at scenery (clouds) while flying. That's what I mean when refer to SteveG situation. He wants or hope... to be given reasons that motivates him to farm/hunt/play the game. NOT to be told to farm/hunt/play the game to find his reason.

Yes, Paragon levelling is enough to alleviate what Diablo 3 lacks in the eyes of the detractors. If today's activity on the Diablo subreddit is any indication, the negativity surrounding the game has mostly vanished. The idea was simple, but the ramifications are absolutely immense. Kripparrian himself is sold on the potential of the Paragon system to provide meaningful gameplay.

If you want regular, new content, you play an MMO. You don't play a game like Diablo 3. I don't think anything further needs to be said. Repetition in game play is not necessarily a bad thing so long as people are given incentives to progress over time.