Nat set. Old > New04

**Fromtheshad** · 19-08-2012, 08:42

The 4 pieces will now give +20 discipline instead of 2 discipline regen/sec...

Does set bonus, Change with new update or not? __ Because

**lanceuppercut** · 19-08-2012, 09:25

I was about to post something along these lines, +20 disc is nice if you have a +10 quiver and chest though. of course a 1.04 nat's with +10 disc will be a lucky *** roll! run it with prep/30% chance rune and not too bad overall.

I can only assume the base stats for 1.04 nat's will be higher to offset the lack of regen. I guess it will be more efficient due to (I hope, a weapon that does suck balls)

From what i can make out, set bonuses are largely the same but interestingly, can't see a 1.04 weapon listed anywhere on that list.

**raveharu** · 19-08-2012, 09:52

What About Sets? - It’s worth clarifying that green Set items are Legendary items (just with a set bonus) and so the above philosophy applies to them as well. Some set bonuses are changing, they’re becoming more powerful, and a lot of them are having their base ilvl increased to 63.

You can basically dump the old set items, the new set items will also be getting a huge buff, just like the legends.

I seriously loled at the people buying the old nats set at absurd prices because some people are spreading the false info that the old set is better, sigh people are so gullible.

**Karth** · 19-08-2012, 10:04

Set bonuses aren't changing with the update; old items will remain the same. The sets have different names to help you differentiate between them. The old Nat's set will likely remain quite valuable, especially with good attributes.

**lanceuppercut** · 19-08-2012, 10:08

Originally Posted by raveharu

What About Sets? - It’s worth clarifying that green Set items are Legendary items (just with a set bonus) and so the above philosophy applies to them as well. Some set bonuses are changing, they’re becoming more powerful, and a lot of them are having their base ilvl increased to 63.

You can basically dump the old set items, the new set items will also be getting a huge buff, just like the legends.

I seriously loled at the people buying the old nats set at absurd prices because some people are spreading the false info that the old set is better, sigh people are so gullible.

someone good at maths (as I'm not!) needs to do some calculations to find out which is better for continuous gloom usage!

**Buu** · 19-08-2012, 10:10

edit: oops

Though, on the topic of set bonuses in general, does anyone think the Tal Rasha's set got improved? I would tend to think that "Adds 3% Fire Damage" > "Fire skills deal 3% more damage".

**raveharu** · 19-08-2012, 10:10

double post.

**raveharu** · 19-08-2012, 10:12

Originally Posted by Buu

Diablofans has the 4 piece giving the same +2 disc/sec bonus.

old

Natalya's Wrath 2 pieces: [Critical Hit chance increased by 7%]
Natalya's Wrath 3 pieces: [+130 Dexterity]
Natalya's Wrath 4 pieces: [Increases Discipline regeneration by 2 per second]

new

Natalya's Solace 2 pieces: [Critical Hit chance increased by 7%]
Natalya's Solace 3 pieces: [+130 Dexterity]
Natalya's Solace 4 pieces: [+20 maximum Discipline]

Looking at what they did with the new legends, I wouldn't worry at all about selling the old nat's set now.

(just sold my nat boots for 15m :P)

**Karth** · 19-08-2012, 10:31

Originally Posted by lanceuppercut

someone good at maths (as I'm not!) needs to do some calculations to find out which is better for continuous gloom usage!

20/45 = .44 effective discipline/second from +20 max discipline and Preparation.

**lanceuppercut** · 19-08-2012, 11:09

Originally Posted by Karth

20/45 = .44 effective discipline/second from +20 max discipline and Preparation.

interesting, it's going to depend on situations but i can't see how that +20 is better than a flat 2 disc/sec regen. in my case, definitely going to hang onto my wrath as i can't see set items (set bonuses yes, not items) getting any special proc effects like legendaries will have.