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    Re: US citizens can own a gun?



    The reason I'm linking this video is because this isn't some Kumbaya topic where there's an absolute right and wrong. You can quickly find yourself on the wrong end of your ideology.

    Guns make it easier for sick ****s to kill people. Yes. But, you also have to remember the vast majority of gun-related deaths are committed by illegal firearm owners. Any rational person can agree that the regulations and laws governing firearms in this country need to be taken more seriously.

    There's a reason why the Founding Fathers instituted the 2nd amendment. Look no further than Syria for such an education.

    Personally, I think blaming violence in Amerr'kuh on guns is a cop-out and those who do are not willing to examine the deeper, more controversial roots of the problem. One of which being human nature.



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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteGiant View Post
    i call bull**** i mean ; if you can easily obtain weapons the field is leveled. and the person who has malicious intentions with it can cause more harm with a gun than a normal citizen without paranoia / combat-training is capable of preventing with said gun.

    I mean what good does it do a grocery store owner or a taxi driver if a seemingly regular costumer walks up to them and shoots them in the face ? Fire arms only have destructive purposes everyone claiming otherwise has a distorted view on reality ...
    You just proved his point correct....it has everything to do with the person, and nothing to do with the gun. I'm a die-hard, unapologetic Communist, but if there is one thing I agree with Conservatives on (and it's probably the only thing), it is the right for people to be able to protect themselves. You cannot take away this right just because there are some crazy people out there. In the big scheme of things, they are the exception, and not the rule. Criminals will get guns regardless of what laws you make, and banning them will only make most people more vulnerable. It's funny to me that the Conservatives are right on this issue, but are so blatantly wrong on the so-called "war on drugs" and refuse to legalize them, even though its the same concept, but thats another topic for another day.

    It is YOU that has a distorted view of reality partner, sorry to say! Guns aint going away, nor should they. If you want to reduce crime, then get rid of Capitalism and class antagonist systems and social inequality. This is a much better and more effective solution than banning firearms, though you will never make it perfect. Only utopian, leaf-eating Dems think banning guns is going to solve the problem. Yep, us radical/revolutionary lefitists love our guns just as much as the Neo-Cons. Afterall, we're going to need them when the Proletarian revolution pops off so we can take out as much Bourgeois/Wall Street scum as we can.


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    Honestly, some of the highest profile mass-shootings in Europe's recent history have occurred in countries who pride themselves on their strict gun control.

    If somebody is determined enough, they are going to find a way.



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    Quote Originally Posted by CarsV View Post

    Guns make it easier for sick ****s to kill people. Yes. But, you also have to remember the vast majority of gun-related deaths are committed by illegal firearm owners. Any rational person can agree that the regulations and laws governing firearms in this country need to be taken more seriously.
    There's a reason why the Founding Fathers instituted the 2nd amendment. Look no further than Syria for such an education.
    Personally, I think blaming violence in Amerr'kuh on guns is a cop-out and those who do are not willing to examine the deeper, more controversial roots of the problem. One of which being human nature.
    I don't think someone thinks guns is the ROOT of the problem. I think reasonable people that are against guns agree it won't solve everything. But I, among other, believe it is a part of the problem. That banning would REDUCE deaths by murder (voluntary and involuntary).

    I voluntarily said "deaths" instead of "murders". The reason is that even though banning guns wont prevent redneck Joe to kill his wife, it will prevent some other cases of deaths.

    You just proved his point correct....it has everything to do with the person, and nothing to do with the gun. I'm a die-hard, unapologetic Communist, but if there is one thing I agree with Conservatives on (and it's probably the only thing), it is the right for people to be able to protect themselves. You cannot take away this right just because there are some crazy people out there. In the big scheme of things, they are the exception, and not the rule. Criminals will get guns regardless of what laws you make, and banning them will only make most people more vulnerable.

    It is YOU that has a distorted view of reality partner, sorry to say! Guns aint going away, nor should they. If you want to reduce crime, then get rid of Capitalism and class antagonist systems and social inequality. This is a much better and more effective solution than banning firearms. Only utopian, leaf-eating Dems think banning guns is going to solve the problem. Yep, us radical/revolutionary lefitists love our guns just as much as the Neo-Cons. Afterall, we're going to need them when the Proletarian revolution pops off so we can take out as much Bourgeois/Wall Street scum as we can.
    Are you ****ing real ?



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    Quote Originally Posted by acken View Post
    I don't think someone thinks guns is the ROOT of the problem. I think reasonable people that are against guns agree it won't solve everything. But I, among other, believe it is a part of the problem. That banning would REDUCE deaths by murder (voluntary and involuntary).

    I voluntarily said "deaths" instead of "murders". The reason is that even though banning guns wont prevent redneck Joe to kill his wife, it will prevent some other cases of deaths.



    Are you ****ing real ?
    Yea, I am. Are you? Also, you should do some research before making absurd notions. Statistics show that banning guns does NOT reduce crime.....Washington DC, one of the most crime ridden cities in America, had a ban on handguns for almost 2 decades. They lifted that ban a few years ago. Guess what the crime rate has been like since? You guessed it.....down, down, down. Also, I live in Idaho, one of the most gun-friendly states in the nation. There has been exactly ONE murder in Boise so far this year. ONE. And it didn't even involve a gun, though had the victim owned a gun, she may well still be alive today. Guns are not the problem. PEOPLE are the problem. If you know the dude next to you is packin' heat, you're gonna think twice about trying anything stupid.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FireIceTalon View Post
    Yea, I am. Are you? Also, statistics show otherwise that banning guns does NOT reduce crime.....Washington DC, one of the most crime ridden cities in America, had a ban on handguns for almost 2 decades. They lifted that ban a few years ago. Guess what the crime rate has been like since? You guessed it.....down, down, down. Also, I live in Idaho, one of the most gun-friendly states in the nation. There has been exactly ONE murder in Boise so far this year. ONE. And it didn't even involve a gun.
    lol. Albeit we might sometimes disagree on sociology, economics and D3, I think we finally agree on something.

    I've lived and grown up in the beltway suburbs of Washington D.C. Believe me, no amount of gun control will stop this place from chewing its own *** out. I've got the scars to prove it.

    http://homicidewatch.org/homicides/map/ I live just North of Seat Pleasant.


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    yeah you are pretty surreal ... you should maybe return to my post # 31 if you want to get to the core of the matter. if you think that Weapons are the grand equalizer for everything which is wrong in this so called capitalistic scumbag world you should check your priorities.

    belittling capitalism which has worked best so far ; and praising your paradigmatic Marxisms which has never been successfully practiced in the way it is meant to be - does very little to increase validity of your "points"

    that being said my "Utopian" , unrealistic view of a society in which vanilla citizens cannot obtain fire arms is closer to reality than your Marxism.

    i also like how the bearer of the weapon is the sole judge of sanity and justice in your little rant. do you think that insane people think that they are insane ? i also like how you phrase opinions as facts - sorry if i have to break it to you but phrasing opinions as facts and discrediting other parties does very very little at improving necessary objectivity and credibility.



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    Funny thing is, I have access to all these guns, yet I still prefer to kill with my teeth. :shrug:



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    Quote Originally Posted by Noodle View Post
    Funny thing is, I have access to all these guns, yet I still prefer to kill with my teeth. :shrug:
    Get your teeth off me you damn dir.... oh.. Sorry.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Noodle View Post
    Funny thing is, I have access to all these guns, yet I still prefer to kill with my teeth. :shrug:
    You think this is a JOKE? Pulli is psychologically damaged by the idea of people owning guns and you make a joke about it? And you didn't even put in a trigger warning.





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