Errr... What happened to the trading forums?

**Starke** · 05-08-2012, 15:25

Just curious since I used to do all my trading through here but now the trade forums are pretty dead... I HATE trading in games and while the FG site is hopping I'd really... rather not.

What happened to the trading community here? And as an aside, what happened to the in game trading channels, they used to be FILLED with spam bots but now even they are empty!

**IncubatorJones** · 05-08-2012, 15:50

Diablo 3

**Archone** · 05-08-2012, 19:11

Originally Posted by IncubatorJones

Diablo 3

Word.

Peace

**Starke** · 05-08-2012, 22:09

Not really. I pointed out in the first post that there is a highly active (as in posts every few seconds) D2 trading community. I just don't like trading there. (I liked trading here!) So it's not just D3 (though I'm sure that's impacted it substantially)

Besides, I quit playing D3 and started playing D2 again

**juju** · 05-08-2012, 22:17

Originally Posted by Starke

Besides, I quit playing D3 and started playing D2 again

this is what i did too ^^

**Archone** · 06-08-2012, 06:19

But there are so few players on euscl, that I, and others too, play singleplayer now.

Peace

**Greizer** · 06-08-2012, 07:54

I thought of going back since I missed all the early exploits and can't afford the 100 million gold weapons and whatnot... But once you've tried a shared stash, you can never mule again, case closed. Not to mention all the other problems... And the fact that D3's combat *feels* better than D2's, despite all the things that are currently wrong with it (Molten Vortex Jailer Arcane, I'm looking at you).

Single player has Atma, but I'd have to start from scratch and search for a year for that elusive Tal armor... No ty. Perhaps I could get something productive done with the lack of a true D2 successor... Ofc they can still fix D3, but I'm not holding my breath.

**Archone** · 06-08-2012, 10:23

Single player = 40-50 runs/hour (I do that many, and with static(already revealed) maps!!!)
Bnet = 19 runs/hour

So its actually alot faster to find that item youre looking for on sp!

Ive found hrs, made 2enigmas and found 4-5 tal armors now!

Peace

**SicklyFish** · 08-08-2012, 23:48

Yeah I left d3 for d2, but battle.net wasn't really appealing to me so I don't trade here. Found an awesome unmodified private server that publicly humiliates repeat botters, but I won't talk about it since private servers aren't supported by blizzard as far as I know.

It's been so much more fun than d3 though, a couple thousand trav runs got me a badass barb with a jah rune sitting in the stash for later

**Jednowlosy** · 15-08-2012, 20:03

Afaik, beside the "other forums" (in which botters trade with other botters), Diablo2 trading is dead in general. Few people play the ladder, nearly nobody plays non-ladder, and our forums simply reflect that.

I also don't feel like going to single player, because the game simply isn't balanced to be fun there (imho). I don't find doing thousands of mindless runs fun, and most of regular self-found gear is too useless to play on hell difficulty with my favorite builds. Those that beat the game naked just happen to be rather low on my "favorite char" list...

In general I don't find MF fun. What I find fun is the game itself, you know, killing monsters and leveling up, but the game was basically re-balanced around the thousands of dupes on the realms and made rather lame for honest players. Of course I believe some of us may enjoy 200 meph runs per day to be able to play builds like bearsorc after a month or two, but that's definitely not my cup of tea. I liked the fact that I can play, gather some gear, sell it and buy endgame stuff on the realms, enabling me to pick from one of the hundreds of possible character builds. I hate the fact that I have to dedicate myself to boring repetitive labor to get a silly shako on single player.

I guess that's really the end of the line for honest players that don't want to MF on single player - there's not really much to do. Trading is dead, without trading Bnet has zero appeal (obviously because of lags, temp bans, bad muling, bots, etc), however, single player has even less appeal as not all of us enjoy struggling on hell blood moor (or playing one of the few builds that don't over and over).

Sad, but true :(

On the other hand, there's always PlugY and a totally fresh start on SP with all the comfort it brings. No lag, no bots, no hacks, no dupes, no temp bans, no cheaters, no muling problems, no "ladder only" stuff since everything is made permanently possible to find/assemble... If only it didn't require endless MF-ing...