If Blizzard Release PvP Without Ladders, Rankings or scores, it will seal D3's Fate

[darkstarhub]

D2's prime being before Enigma(and other powerful RW) and synergies is total bull****. I am sure that I am not alone thinking the later patches made the game better. As far as PVP, I have no plans to do it. But, if it brings more people to the game, Blizz might be more active in its roll to keep things tuned up. I really hope they don't nerf the hell out of everything in the name of balance.

[unmoses]

Well I would definitely prefer to run for 20 minutes than play Badminton, as the former will give me a much better workout. Naw mean?

Ok fine. Let's say you love playing Racquetball. And you can burn 500 calories an hour. Let's also say you can burn 500 calories an hour on a treadmill.. but you love racquetball. Do you think the competition will provide more stimulus for you to exercise?

[darkrealm]

Well good thing you aren't a pvp "Valuer"....

Because if you think that D2 pvp was a collection of ears you have no clue what your talking about. I actually found that comment funny and insulting. If i saved every ear from a duel id have 20 accounts full of nothing...lol.

As far as griefing goes.. A real pvp player didnt get griefed, they laughed at griefers, killed them and took their gold and griefed them right back.


PVP does not need rewards or banners. The art of dueling itself is a good enough reward. Leagues will be made with tourneys and such that will reward players.

Maybe you should stick to over pricing items. Because a Diablo game with out dueling is WRONG just like your opinion on the matter.





A collection of ears...? LOL....

Meh, personal attacks from a faceless person. Never said I did want dueling. We are not going to have 1vs1 so what use is it? Even in group battles it will be 4??...when there are 5 classes? There is a vast difference in PVP arena and duels. LRN2thinkbeforeyouspeak.

Have you ever bothered to read the pvp forum on this site? We don't need rankings, we don't need balance. All we need is a way to fight who we want to fight rather than some mindless 4v4 arena. We can--as we always have in the past--take care of the rest. Pvp has always been a thriving subgroup in D2. It wasn't for everyone, but it kept a LOT of people interested in the game far longer than mindless farming.



1v1 actually eliminates any need for balancing by Blizzard, as the dueling community can come up with its own balance rules if we get to pick our opponents.

I was not the one who started this post and said that rankings, etc needed to occur. But, I can see Azzure's point. The vast majority of people would support a ranking system of some kind or an in game reward. I just think Blizz is going to fall short.


To both of you PVP studs: When the time comes I will be happy to face either of you in any setting Blizzard makes with any one of my classes and duel. But I think we need to make a wager of some kind. Some IGG or something to make it worth my time. Hell, you can even pick which character you want to duel.

[Vooodu]

Meh, personal attacks from a faceless person. Never said I did want dueling. We are not going to have 1vs1 so what use is it? Even in group battles it will be 4??...when there are 5 classes? There is a vast difference in PVP arena and duels. LRN2thinkbeforeyouspeak.


I was not the one who started this post and said that rankings, etc needed to occur. But, I can see Azzure's point. The vast majority of people would support a ranking system of some kind or an in game reward. I just think Blizz is going to fall short.


To both of you PVP studs: When the time comes I will be happy to face either of you in any setting Blizzard makes with any one of my classes and duel. But I think we need to make a wager of some kind. Some IGG or something to make it worth my time. Hell, you can even pick which character you want to duel.

ooOooh Noooo... The ear collecter from D2 wants to get all tuff.


You said something stupid.. I pointed out. Cry me a river.

[Vooodu]

D2's prime being before Enigma(and other powerful RW) and synergies is total bull****. I am sure that I am not alone thinking the later patches made the game better. As far as PVP, I have no plans to do it. But, if it brings more people to the game, Blizz might be more active in its roll to keep things tuned up. I really hope they don't nerf the hell out of everything in the name of balance.

D2s prime was before enigmas and synergies. Unless you like duels with everyone teleporting and using the same builds.

Also back in d2s prime, the game was packed. It was its prime after all. 6 years later isnt its prime.

[JEB90]

Meh, personal attacks from a faceless person. Never said I did want dueling. We are not going to have 1vs1 so what use is it? Even in group battles it will be 4??...when there are 5 classes? There is a vast difference in PVP arena and duels. LRN2thinkbeforeyouspeak.


I was not the one who started this post and said that rankings, etc needed to occur. But, I can see Azzure's point. The vast majority of people would support a ranking system of some kind or an in game reward. I just think Blizz is going to fall short.


To both of you PVP studs: When the time comes I will be happy to face either of you in any setting Blizzard makes with any one of my classes and duel. But I think we need to make a wager of some kind. Some IGG or something to make it worth my time. Hell, you can even pick which character you want to duel.

Oooo a tough guy. Hmm...can't say I remember you from gimmeitam, pvp west, or pvp east. Go figure...

[darkrealm]

Oooo a tough guy. Hmm...can't say I remember you from gimmeitam, pvp west, or pvp east. Go figure...

Go figure I don't remember you either. But, then again there were lots of Blizz/Orb Sorcs, Smiters, and SS wielding Barbs out there wasn't there. Or were you a GA Zon? Seriously, pvp in D2 was pretty easy. Although I could not beat this one Pally to save my life with Charge on my cold sorc.

[Simfish]

Ok fine. Let's say you love playing Racquetball. And you can burn 500 calories an hour. Let's also say you can burn 500 calories an hour on a treadmill.. but you love racquetball. Do you think the competition will provide more stimulus for you to exercise?

That depends. One is more fun, but is also more logistically difficult to set up. Often, I just want to go and get a great workout when I want to without having to wait for my workout buddy to get his act together. After all, why else are people tolerating single player farming runs in Diablo 3? Now that's something I wouldn't do!

[JEB90]

I actually invented and played a Jav barb. There's a guide on here in the Strategy Compendium if it's still accessible. And, you're right, there were plenty of run-of-the-mill cookie cutters. Odd for a "meaningless" phenomenon...

[Azzure]

I think gaming has evolved so much in the last 10 years that one expects a system like PvP to be more than just the act of killing other players, and offer a lot more than the previous game. I think saying "Well D2 didn't have real PvP so a crappy D3 PvP system is ok" is an invalid argument to make, because at the time that was what PvP primarily was, and it offered us what we wanted at the time.

We expect more now, and a lot of us feel like we are not getting a successor in this but rather a step backwards.