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http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/tal-rashas-adjudication
Say if i found/purchased one of these with the cold effect and if I used HAA/EF:CF/Impale:Overpenetration, would that add a snare effect to my attacks? My xbow has no elemental modifiers and as far as I can see, none of those attacks change the element either.
I do have Inna's Blessing which adds +X% as holy, assuming that doesn't cloud the issue any..
Very good question you got right there. I don't think anyone can answer this without trying. Adds 6% Cold Damage modifier really enhances your weapon with extra hidden cold damage affix AFAIK. Does this apply slow? I don't know, should try that out but TR Amus tend to be little too expensive for me to test it atm.
If it adds the slow, it's still bad amulet for DH tho. :P
Granted, on the face of it, as stats go, it's not suited for DH's save for health and fake all res in the form of the INT stats but add on cull the weak for 15% damage on top of things being slower then in theory, it sort of sidesteps the limitation that cold bows are naturally lower in DPS because of their ability to more or less constantly slow/snare, assuming you have a non-elemental weapon/skill of course..
I personally try to build my characters by separating offensive and defensive slots of my gear and Amulet is 3rd offensive slot only topped by Weapon and Gloves. You are throwing away so much damage even after you count in cull the weak that the utility from slow wouldn't cut it IMO. SoJ would be a lot better option. 6% cold damage, 8 max disc and possible cd/cc/asi on the ring would make you a perfect slow utility item which offers you so much more when compared to Tals Ammy.
Just something you should consider..
did not know the stone of jordan did +cold actually!
nice (but probably quite expensive hehe)
People normally don't understand how valuable SoJ could be, the class specific stats they add together with % damage is super nice and you can find some really nice bargains. Some SoJs sells for like 600-700k or so. Finding the one with perfect stats won't be easy but people really don't know how they should value their findings when it comes to anything else than cookie cutters.
i can see one SoJ at the moment (EU HC), 10m, not cheap and not even the right stats i need for a DH.
are there any other items out there that could potentially add a cold effect?
Didn't realize you were playing HC lol. Can't remember any other sources right now..
Yup, HC and I would take anything that adds +cold, even if was barebones. For survivability the ability to be snaring everything you hit without a cold weapons built in dps penalty is something I'd jump at!
I think I saw the puzzle ring I think it was that has the ability to spawn with +cold as well as the tal rasha set as a gauaranteed bonus, which clearly I'm not going to go for.
Whilst randomly looking at legendary rings, I saw a puzzle ring on the HC EU with 2% cold, didn't even stop to think that this could be a 1.5m mistake and impulse purchased it and very happy to report that it snares on attacks.
In an ideal world, I should've either test purchased something cheaper to see if the effect works or not (maybe ask someone who has zuni's journey is poison affects their stats or not) but made a call on the spot and so glad it worked out.
I also forgot to take off Inna's Blessing so the test results had +5% holy too, my very quick test results are, on initial hit, tested with a xbow that has no elemental damage:
-HA:PA = snare
-HAA = snare
-HA:Cinder Arrow = snare (?!)
-HA:SoT = snare
-Impale:Overpenetration = snare
-EF:CF = snare
-Rapid Fire:Withering Fire = snare
-Multishot:Fire at Will = no (assume the lightning damage overrides)
-Multishot:Suppresion Fire = snare
-Cluster Arrow:Loaded for Bear = no
Also for kicks, I tested my bow with +holy damage and surprisingly, it snared too. Now I have to decide to use EF:CF which can always hit 3 at once or HA:PA which has a 50% chance of pierce, meaning potential mass snaring..
I did have to make the choice to not use my Bul-Kathos ring (well I wasn't going to drop Natalya's mark am I!) ring, I took a small DPS/HP/LoH/crit damage hit but IMO entirely worth as it means any weapon I use, will act like a cold weapon only without the restriction that cold weapons have = more time = more survivability.
I seriously now need to either work SP/Gloom in my build (nearly took myself out by a reflect/horde pack when out testing, *hugs prep*) or get lucky with a magical LoH/IAS/crit amulet!
edit: snare doesn't seem to proc 100% of the time on yellow elites, feels like it's about 50% of the time but that is guessing and no prolonged testing of this was carried out.
Last edited by lanceuppercut; 30-07-2012 at 20:56.
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