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    Re: Aurora, Colorado has a law banning concealed carry weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by jmervyn View Post
    That was the point made on RedEye three(?) days ago - again I reference the Overton Window. People/mainstream media are squabbling about gun control and concealed carry, when the discussion ought to be about whether it is beneficial to put sub-humans like this down like mad dogs. Despite the courtroom shenanigans, Holmes was obviously in control of his faculties during his planning.

    Evil <> psycho.
    My use of the term psycho was in reference to being psychopathic, not psychotic. I just like to throw around the word psycho. It has a nice cathartic ring to it.

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    Disagree. Basic firearms competence increases security; "an armed society is a polite society" and people need not be crack shots (surprising numbers are, though). Sadly, CO used to teach basic firearms competence as an in-school elective; the state is so far left nowadays that I doubt it is even discussed in the hinterlands.
    Polite at what cost? Constant fear of rubbing someone the wrong way? Don't get me wrong, I support concealed carry, as long as the (relatively few) people who do really know what the heck they're doing, and aren't just trigger-happy scaredy cats.

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    Like Bob recognized, it increases costs. Would Paul Blart somehow be more intimidating to a potential monster, given the factors of spontaneity and confusion which you cited? Methinks not.
    Valid point.



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    Re: Aurora, Colorado has a law banning concealed carry weapons

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    It has a nice cathartic ring to it.
    Whatevs, IMO Holmes is Evil and as sane as Evil ever is.
    Quote Originally Posted by Technomancer View Post
    Polite at what cost? Constant fear of rubbing someone the wrong way? Don't get me wrong, I support concealed carry, as long as the (relatively few) people who do really know what the heck they're doing, and aren't just trigger-happy scaredy cats.
    This was the norm in my childhood. Yes, there's a greater chance that drunken yahoos will kill themselves, their family, or passers-by, but traditional American behavior was one of armed private citizens. I doubt it's been more than 100 years since elementary school students would have been carrying rifles in class.
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    Valid point.
    Only type I ever make.




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    Re: Aurora, Colorado has a law banning concealed carry weapons

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    Whatevs, IMO Holmes is Evil and as sane as Evil ever is.
    Psychopaths aren't insane, they are very sane and calculating and fully culpable for their actions.

    Quote Originally Posted by jmervyn View Post
    This was the norm in my childhood. Yes, there's a greater chance that drunken yahoos will kill themselves, their family, or passers-by, but traditional American behavior was one of armed private citizens. I doubt it's been more than 100 years since elementary school students would have been carrying rifles in class.
    It was the norm in my father's youth where he grew up (I'll call it "the hills"), and it still makes him nervous when he goes back there. Namely, because all the things you just mentioned happened fairly regularly. They still do there, surprisingly. My great-grandfather was a police chief there and was ambushed and shot down because he actually tried to enforce the law.

    You can call all of that anecdotal, but regardless, it colors my opinions with caution.



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    Re: Aurora, Colorado has a law banning concealed carry weapons

    Quote Originally Posted by jmervyn View Post
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    This was the norm in my childhood. Yes, there's a greater chance that drunken yahoos will kill themselves, their family, or passers-by, but traditional American behavior was one of armed private citizens. I doubt it's been more than 100 years since elementary school students would have been carrying rifles in class.
    It's traditional American behaviour to fight the British. Get to it, buddy.

    Only type I ever make.
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    Re: Aurora, Colorado has a law banning concealed carry weapons

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    Psychopaths aren't insane, they are very sane and calculating and fully culpable for their actions.
    Oddly enough, psychopaths are often considered insane, though I get why you make the statement. One of the posters on the GW OTF was boasting about being one.
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    You can call all of that anecdotal,
    Thank you, Captain Obvious. Just like pederasty, child abduction, and J00ish blood sacrifice, the purported past frequency of occurrence is mythological at best. Back in Realityville, many statistics of this sort do not change over time, such as true poverty incidence.
    Quote Originally Posted by LozHinge the Unhinged View Post
    It's traditional American behaviour to fight the British. Get to it, buddy.
    You haven't had the stones since the War of 1812. I'd link to the Johnny Horton song, but I'm back at work.
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    Nope, I got nothing.
    Truer words...




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    Re: Aurora, Colorado has a law banning concealed carry weapons

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    You haven't had the stones since the War of 1812.
    Me personally? Me as an American? Me as a Brit? I haven't had the stones to have the Americans fight me since 150 years before I was born? Or all of the above?
    Do you have any idea what you are trying to say? Should I be worried?

    I'd link to the Johnny Horton song, but I'm back at work.
    No linky? Oh. Is there any chance you could be a work 24/7/365? Cos, you know, I'd cope without the linky-linky, as a rule.

    Truer words...
    If I don't send you back a short lob from time to time, you'll get dispirited and, oh I don't know, smash your racket and yell at the line judge and umpire. That's what you people do, isn't it?




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