Mafia Game: Cheers/Frasier Theme

[pharphis]

Huh? How did you jump to that? I would think a SK would be way more likely.



This is a good question. They seem to commonly show up as anti-town as well.

Okay, I didn't know that. I've yet to have the chance of being a cop and receiving results myself.

MartinLong, are you able to tell us what words were used to describe the result?
anti-town, guilty, etc?

[Goryani]

I wanted things with Gory to play out before I expressed my thoughts on him. Solar has already started, so I thought it was a good time to back him up in his thoughts.

I did say that I wasn't keen on any of the other major lynch considerations at that time (you, kestegs, moar?), aside from Mal (which has now changed, of course). I wonder if I had come out then if i would have been considered your scum buddy
that may be why Solar waited, as well.

Why did you wait, solar? or were these newer thoughts? I guess they probably were since you were going pretty hard at kestegs yesterday.

Ah yes. Another player saying they thought ML was scum but conveniently didn't have a vote. And not wanting to accuse me while the MartinLong vote was still going on for fear that you would be considered scummy? Someone is talking out of multiple sphincters.

[Gwaihir]

Thought on ML and Goryani:

I am really not sure here. I agree that Gory seemed to be a less analytical than normal, and was slightly suspicious in my book. On the other hand, to me it seemed like ML was playing to a failed lynch by not claiming until the end of the day after he was locked - almost as if he wanted to get lynched and knew it would fail. Just smells too convenient to me. The strike against Goryani is the lack of vote against omg: you wanted to keep him around for informational purposes Gory, did you actually learn anything? When it comes down to it though, I think it is best to test Goryani first. If he comes back as town, ML needs to get a serious look.

Still think omg needs to go, has not changed since yesterday.

Vote 1: Goryani
Vote 2: omgwtfbbqpwned

[frozzzen]

What struck me odd, is how everyone accepted Martin's claim as set in stone. I for one don't trust him. At all.

He showed one of worst played Cops ever to date, by letting him get locked and not claiming (and somehow managing to survive lynch - now I don't know about pro town roles to keep lynch from happening, or at least I haven't ever seen them, but I bloody do know there are anti town examples in mafia games where they would have temp lynch immunity), by not wanting to share info with town and town needing to bash info from him, by his claim being opportunistic when Larz asked "you claim cop Martin?" he decided to go with flow and claimed after he got locked (now dunno if it was pro town or anti town safe, but that role is already in gray zone even if town).

To me this all chain of events looked like Martin was pretty sure he would get killed (and prevented) so he used Cop claim as lovely way to stay in game longer. And considering Martin drew some attention on himself it wouldn't be out of window for scum to pull something like that.

Martin, you look scum in my book that set everything up (with help of moar, I'm not really sure, would need to observe your convo more) until someone claims pro town lynch preventer (what I don't think would happen and probably shouldn't considering role can be used to greater success if it's not only one/limited use per game).

Now you say Gory got scum results, ok I'll go with that cause guilty results are easy to check. And I think we will deal with omg today, at least on my part (in retrospect I probably should have voted yesterday for omg and not sticking to my logic but I didn't imagine there would be so much possible V#2 candidates today).

Anyway...

Vote 1: Goryani

Vote 2: omgwtfbbqpwned

[Goryani]

There were no deaths.

Vote 1: Lynch on MartinLong FAILED.

At some point, this question will have to be answered. Either ML has a lynch avoidance ability or a role like Mr. Broflovski saved ML.

[Goryani]

kestegs is dead. He was Rebecca. Pro Town. Townie.

/sarcasm: Couldn't see that one coming.

[Goryani]

Additionally, I'd like to hear from the seven people who decided to not cast a Vote 2 on omgwtfbbqpwned. These people include:
Goryani
Malevolent
frozzzen
nulio
flubbucket
coju
Uraj

Why did each of you decide that a lynch on a claimed non-town player should not happen? A couple of you have stated your reasoning in the past. I would consider it a personal favour if you would please state that reason again, for posterity.

I think there is NO WAY omg gets lynched without mafia being willing participants. If it's what they want, I don't want it.

[pharphis]

Ah yes. Another player saying they thought ML was scum but conveniently didn't have a vote. And not wanting to accuse me while the MartinLong vote was still going on for fear that you would be considered scummy? Someone is talking out of multiple sphincters.

Nowhere in that post you quoted or ever did I say I that I thought ML was scum. In that post I said I thought Mal was scum, and NOT kestegs or ML.
By following my line of thought with everything else in that post you should have got the same feeling for what I meant by that sentence, too.
Was my wording poor or were you the only one to misread this?

[Goryani]

Can you describe to us how omg was doing more scumhunting than anyone? He was suspicious of Noodle, and yet every one of his posts were about his role but one and the post where he votes. That doesn't justify him being around when we lost nothing by lynching him, especially as late in the day as you came in and failed to act!

Uraj said "more scumhunting than a fair amount of others" and not "more scumhunting than anyone." He's right.

[Goryani]

Two nights, two deaths. This would confirm that mafia has two kills a night and those theories about the post man taking out someone is false.

Mafia has two night kills? O'Rly.