I guess D3 saved me some money. yes BASHIOK i am (thanxful!?)der=0>

[wyrmbreaker]

I got d3 with the annual WoW pass as 2million other people and lets say theorically d3 was never in project and was never gonna happen i was probably going to stick to WoW to see if mists of Pandaria were gonna be slighty decent(even tho pandas are not a good sign)

Well now i know for good blizzard have a new direction that is not exactly enlightened about whats fun for their players. (High-Five Jay) and are money hungry enough to release a POS game at a low production cost (still in BETA form)

I am now cancelling my WoW subscription and have no plan to ever buy a blizzard product in the future however good the reviews are because hey,(WoW babies generation : We have been getting overwhelmingly good feedback about the story. -Jay Wilson)

SO financially speaking I won... They loss

[raveharu]

Another QQ thread, unfortunately some random guy whining and posting it in a forum is not a loss to them.

[djmilhaus]

so you play two pos games? ok then, thanks for sharing.

[SuggestiveName]

If you bought the annual pass you are obligated to pay for 12 months, so you won't really be cancelling any time soon.

[Crudesash68]

If you bought the annual pass you are obligated to pay for 12 months, so you won't really be cancelling any time soon.

If you don't mind losing your Bnet account (Or having it shut down, at least), you can remove the payment method from your WoW account; then your account is shut down...I wonder if they would resort to nasty collection agency letters too.

Or just send the Templar to your house and talk to you till you send them money, or possibly, your ears.

@OP: FYI, the feedback on Mists has been oddly positive, but the jury is out on whether that is due to the quality of MoP or the general dislike of Cataclysm.

[chenw]

I quit WoW pretty much after they released info on MoP, but a lot of it is personal vendetta and general dissatisfaction at how Cataclysm went.

Somewhere between the expansions, they introduced the Random Dungeon Finder, which basically allowed you to farm Emblems/JP's without having to spam in your realm for a Tank or healer, and it also bypasses lockouts. The theory sounds great, but in reality it made the player attitude down REALLY fast. Before this, one most likely would have tolerated some newbie tank (who I once was) because, the lockouts cannot be bypassed, most of the 5 people would want to see a dungeon all the way to the end. But with the advent of RDF, they removed that tolerance completely and utterly. People would quit if the tank had less health than they do (even discounting the fact that the tank would have more health than any starting tank before RDF was introduced) and immediately quit without bothering, and when a minor screw up with threat on a normal mob would impart rage quit on the healer because 'Sorry, I can't be bothered to heal non-tanks', without thinking that a lot of the time it was the DPS not watching the threat. (similar phenomenon occurs with tanks that dies due to massive number of mobs pulled from a careless dps, and subsequently blaming it on the healer's inability to heal). This made anyone who was starting out to tank have to take relentless abuse from other players simply because he was this: new to tanking. Everyone seem to have the mentality that if you need stuff from HC's, you are not good enough for HC's (at least from my experience).

MoP was the final straw. The depiction of using Panda's in a game with a serious background, and the fact that many people would associate Pandas with the movie Kung Fu Panda, made me think whether WoW was worth playing from this point onwards. The concept of using Panda's in a MMORPG, especially with a monk class, probably gets tagged with 'people who play with Kung Fu Pandas' brush, so I decided I'd steer clear away from it. (Take into account that I am from Taiwan, a 'race' which pandas are associated closely with).

Oh, and MoP was mentioning how the Rift between the Alliance and the Horde was going to be explored in MoP. I am very sick and tired of this whole Alliance VS. Horde thing, lorewise or game play wise, I had hoped they might have somehow eased at the end of Wrath, but of course, Gorrosh had to replace Thrall and make things to an unprecedented bad level.

However, these my reasons and mine only, I am sure some of you may find it extremely weird, possibly unjustifiable, but that's how my OS works :P

[Crudesash68]

Chen, even though that post was about WoW, I wish we had more negative feedback like that; you discussed what you personally didn't like without ripping other people, going over the edge, etc.

Without going too far afield from Diablo, I shared a lot of your frustrations, but I was lucky to find a few like minded people, and we created a pretty strong guild which shielded us from a lot of the nusiances you find in public play. As far as the Pandas...I keep an open mind. I played the beta for a bit, and they weren't awful, and I kind of liked a character that was not built like a bronze god

[chenw]

Thank you, although I do apologise for going WoW instead of D3 :P, that being said, I quit WoW, but I will still be keeping a eye on it, for if it does get better than expected, I may give it a try again (Although, I am not sure if I like the new talent system).

Back on D3. I don't think I, so far, have found the satisfaction with D3 as I did with D2. But then again, I was never really into D2 until D2LOD came out. So in time, if the expansion gives it a new breathe of life, I could very well be into D3X as much as I was/am with D2X (SHOCKING!).

What I do find shocking is how people reacted to D3. So far my observations are:

1. It looks crap, so I am saving my $/E60, sucks to all those who bought it and wasted their money
2. I bought it, I thought it was crap, so I rage on forums whereever and call it quit (whether the person did it or not is entirely a different question).
3. I bought it, I thought it was crap, I whine on Blizzard forums demanding these "Insert whatever changes the person deem worth their money" changes, then whine some more and complain about how I paid you money, now give me what I want.
4. Treating RMAH as a P2W, when it's a By Players For Players feature.

While I admit, Blizzard could have done better, in some cases, much better, in some aspects of the game, I do feel a bit awful for Blizzard for taking up that kind of abuse from the players, even if it was all in the name of 'money'. Regardless of your goals, getting sledgehammered left right and centre doesn't give Blizzard a good impression on what people DO want, or what improvements CAN be made. If you want to make your voices heard, at least make it coherent and civil.

I do keep asking myself: would it have been better for worse if Blizzard never even made D3?

[Benbos]

I got d3 with the annual WoW pass as 2million other people and lets say theorically d3 was never in project and was never gonna happen i was probably going to stick to WoW to see if mists of Pandaria were gonna be slighty decent(even tho pandas are not a good sign)

Well now i know for good blizzard have a new direction that is not exactly enlightened about whats fun for their players. (High-Five Jay) and are money hungry enough to release a POS game at a low production cost (still in BETA form)

I am now cancelling my WoW subscription and have no plan to ever buy a blizzard product in the future however good the reviews are because hey,(WoW babies generation : We have been getting overwhelmingly good feedback about the story. -Jay Wilson)

SO financially speaking I won... They loss

I have a little surprise for you:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_...rnid=671465011

For the 4th time in 4 weeks amazon.co.uk ran out of copies yesterday...

their new "back in stock" date is now June 28th...

So you know why ?

Because FRANKLY the REAL LIfe mouth to mouth publicity ALWAYS beats the internet forums crap by at least a factor of 1000 to 1 and that's quite simple an accepted universal law within communications.

That's why WOW, D3, COD sells despite 475 forum posters on metacritic (and alts)....

"You are NEVER going to buy a car because you read something on the internet, while ... you know a REAL LIFE friend who knows everything about cars will help you find one ..."

See that sentence? ... well that's real life opinion leader mechanics friend. First read about that stuff and know the internetz won't help you buy a particular car ever ... when confronted with REAL LIFE opinion leaders.

WOW/COD were the most attacked and spit out MMO/FPS ever on the internet: and it had ZERO effect on the copies sold because frankly they are terrific games with a multi million supported players who brag about it in RL all the time.



Think about it before posting next time.

[ysuol]

Benbos, I'd be curious of some statistics and graphs about how many of those that bought it are actually playing. Yes the hype is there, it's Blizzard after all. The question whether it is a good game or not is not easy to answer because I think there's a lot of people that are used to buying games every week (console generation mostly) and they're fine with that, and are also fine with P2W mechanics. It's a different generation of gamers, it's in fact not as much gamers as the 'real' consumer masses.