RMAH gold price discussion

[viledevil]

if your bnet and paypal info dont match you are screwed though so its not as simple as just filling it in how you please.

[Baalat]

you dont know what you're seeing with just looking at the 2 prices - dont confuse price inconsistency with an exchange rate.

That is why I do it with ~1k dps 1-handed weapons, those are very liquid in both markets, minimizing the inconsistencies, it is almost a commodity - don't get confused yourself, or ask for clarifications before posting

[BohemianStalker]

This alone tell me that you have no idea what 100 bots mean.First, it's 100 computers @ like 400$ a pop.That is 40,000$.Add 6,000$ for 100 games and you have 46,000$ investment.No "guy" WILL do that.Can do? Yes.BUT why in the name of god someone that can spend 50,000$ will do it to BUY computers so he can run 100 bots, so he can make ****loads of gold so he can sell the gold for 2$ a million (because, DUH, he won't b the only one doing it).Also, seriously, if you think about sweat shops...they have their IP's banned since Day 1 of using bots.Not to mention that Asia, where most sweat shops are, HAVE NO ACCES ON EU and US RMAH.

Sure in the IMPOSSIBLE case of some one running 24/7 , 100 bots, and making 50k / hour / bot (i am doing 200k/hour speed GF run in Hell.A bot: 1) cannot do Hell.2) can do only first part of NM. 3) the gold / hour in NM is 4-5 times less than Hell).So yes, if that "guy" can do that, he is Blizzard's CEO, or he is so FCKING good in programming that his LAST idea to make money will be farming Diablo 3.


So...no bots.They are OUT of the ecuation.The impact they have on the price is close to ZERO.There are some bots, they do make some gld, but man, they are NOT active 24/7 (in max 1 day Warden get's them), they NOT sophisticated enough to farm anything above Act 1 Nightmare.One bot can make 50k / hour.Working 10 hours (so Warden do not catch him), makes 500k / day.Is that much, considering that i make 500k in 2 hours WITHOUT using any bot.If I play 8 hours a day I am 4 times better.And pls, just DON'T tell me that trhey can sell the gold outside RMAH for, dunno, 2$ and people will actualy go there, get AT least scammed (at max hacked) instead go to TMAH and buy for 10$ or 12$.Some will go, will get their asses kicked and will NEVER go again to buy from outside game.

The thing is that STILL, 100 bots running mean an investment of around 50k $.You NEED 100 machines AND 100 games to run 100 bots.And only to make what? 50 million gold / day inthe BEST case (the one that is also impossible, because the "guy" will get caught in 1 day).Sell the million for 2$ (this is the price today at scammers).Make 100$ a day.Get your investment back in 500 day.LOLOLOL.

Sweat shop now.They have 50,000 $ , they get 100 mnachines and 100 games AND 100 guys to play.No bots, just some guys.They could potentialy make 200k gold/hour.They could play for 8-10 hours / day.They could make 2 million gold each and 200 million /day.BUT they STILL have to sell their gold for 2$ / million.So, they can make, potentialy, how much? 400$ / day.12,000 $ a month.Pay the working guys with 5$ / day, so 500$ / day , so 15,000 $ month...HMM, not good.Pay the guys 2$ / day.That's more like it...but wait? WHO THE **** will do that for 60$ / month? Even in Vietnam they are paid 3$ / day.Another 1k $ for the energy...some hundreds for the space.Some more hundreds for security and cleaning.
Sweat shops are close to inexistent or are so small that they are not have any impact on gold prices.

The things are VERY complicated and NOT profitable when it comes to Diablo 3, bots and sweat shops.You think Blizzard made this game for some weirdos in China to get rich?
I wait tho for when the gold sellers will dump their gold in RMAH for 3$ for a million.I have about 1,200 $ ready to BUY anything under 3$.I just KNOW that the gold will not go under 10$ per million and I won't be able to get anything.

We ain't going to wait much time for that.Only about 2 weeks till gold comes available in RMAH.And 2 weeks more to see where the gold had stabilizied.I'll be here and on my blog waiting to be flamed, ridiculized or, maybe, apreciated.A "damn, this guy knows ****" will be enough to make me happy.

You are complete tool and dont know anything about bots. Even Demonbuddy which uses no injection makes 500GPH easily. Stop ****ing wasting our times on this forum with your useless posts.

[semakka]

You are complete tool and dont know anything about bots. Even Demonbuddy which uses no injection makes 500GPH easily. Stop ****ing wasting our times on this forum with your useless posts.

The vast majority DB users have the game crashing every 20 min, 30 min, or game freezing.The game I am talking about is Diablo 3.You should at least think and do some research before calling someone a "complete tool".Which is very offensive and I expect the mods to take proper action.

They make 500 GPH...you ment 500k GPH? Are you acustomed to lie like this? 500k GPH in what universe lol ?

I am an active player, my barb can handle 2-3 elite packs in SAME time in Inferno, and I make roughly 220k / hour.You read to much sci-fi man, a bot that can farm only NM making 500k GPH? But maybe it was NOT a typing error and they make only 500 GPH.That is more like it.

[viledevil]

That is why I do it with ~1k dps 1-handed weapons, those are very liquid in both markets, minimizing the inconsistencies, it is almost a commodity - don't get confused yourself, or ask for clarifications before posting

how do you know you see the true exchange rate and not just an inconsistency between values in the 2 markets? surely one single item isn't sufficient data to extrapolate an exchange rate... well, it isn't. and if you check the same way on multiple items that are relatively liquid you'll find different 'exchange rates' which imo invalidates your claim to have discovered the true rate based upon a tiny sample size.

[viledevil]

The vast majority DB users have the game crashing every 20 min, 30 min, or game freezing.The game I am talking about is Diablo 3.You should at least think and do some research before calling someone a "complete tool".Which is very offensive and I expect the mods to take proper action.

They make 500 GPH...you ment 500k GPH? Are you acustomed to lie like this? 500k GPH in what universe lol ?

I am an active player, my barb can handle 2-3 elite packs in SAME time in Inferno, and I make roughly 220k / hour.You read to much sci-fi man, a bot that can farm only NM making 500k GPH? But maybe it was NOT a typing error and they make only 500 GPH.That is more like it.

fwiw i know botters making 15m gold a day per account (a little over 600k an hour).

personally i have kept legit but the fact they're still running after the banwave makes me feel pretty stupid!

[Brixtan]

Do you guys think that the gold price of 'good' but not 'godlike' items will drop next patch?

I'm looking at some Barb armour right now with Strength, Vitality, and Resist All....but that's it. No Goldfind, no Sockets. Those are already worth a few million, even if they aren't the best possible thing.

Do you think the price of such items will drop next patch when farming them will presumably be easier?

Sorry I know its not quite related but it didnt seem worth creating a new thread or :P.

Absolutely. We're already seeing items that used to go for several mil being barely pushed off for 100-200k now (str/vit/all resist gear I'm looking at you). As more people progress into and through Inferno and are able to get more ilvl61+ items, the glut of items that flood the GAH will naturally force sellers to low-ball one another to get a sale until prices finally settle. Right now most of the good gear (I use that term loosely, but average ilvl62/63 rolled items) are priced so astronomically high that no one in their right mind would buy them. This will change.

[Brixtan]

The vast majority DB users have the game crashing every 20 min, 30 min, or game freezing.The game I am talking about is Diablo 3.You should at least think and do some research before calling someone a "complete tool".Which is very offensive and I expect the mods to take proper action.

They make 500 GPH...you ment 500k GPH? Are you acustomed to lie like this? 500k GPH in what universe lol ?

I am an active player, my barb can handle 2-3 elite packs in SAME time in Inferno, and I make roughly 220k / hour.You read to much sci-fi man, a bot that can farm only NM making 500k GPH? But maybe it was NOT a typing error and they make only 500 GPH.That is more like it.

Honestly, if you're only able to net 220k an hour you're doing it wrong (or your gf gear is sub-par). I can farm A3nm points and net 350 to 500k an hr if I'm pushing myself. It's boring as all get out though...

EDIT: oops, sorry for the double post. :/

[Ashbringer]

What are the current igg::€ "exchange rate" according to you guys?

From my experience alone, it seems to be somewhere at 4€ per 1 mil igg, maybe a bit lower.

[Fichtenelch]

Its more like 2,30 Euro / million. That is "black market" though.