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    IAS makes BiS?

    So I'm currently playing with a one-hander and shield; Not the best damage but it's steady enough.
    My main-hand is an axe with 15% IAS (1.5 attacks/sec), nothing too fancy.

    The other day something caught my eye:
    A plain 15% IAS ring had a 500 dps increase over another with 114 str and 9-18 dmg.
    So I got another, for a total of 1.94 attacks/sec.

    My first thought was "I must be doing something wrong" since everyone else values every other stat over IAS, and yet the damage calculator is telling me this is a clear damage increase.
    It does make sense in my head as well (more attacks/sec equals more damage), but these are the main 2 damage stats we're talking.

    What am I missing?



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    Re: IAS makes BiS?

    IAS stacks multiplicatively, so 15% IAS is a direct 15% increase in DPS. Whereas the damage and strenth is additive with your already high base damage and strenth, so their relative contributions are much lower.

    500 DPS / 1.5 APS = 333.3 per hit
    9-18 damage is an average increase of (9+18)/2 = 13.5
    (333.3 + 13.5) * 1.5 APS = 520.25 DPS

    500 DPS * 1.15 = 575
    OR (just to show it's the same thing)
    333.3 per hit * 1.5 * 1.15 = 575
    333.3 per hit * 1.725 APS = 575

    Don't know your strength so I can't do that calc, but it comes down to the same thing



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    Re: IAS makes BiS?

    It seems the damage formula is a little more complex than I anticipated; guess I should have a look at it before attempting to upgrade these IAS rings.
    Thanks for the tip!



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    Re: IAS makes BiS?

    Just get ring with both IAS and strength/vita, they are quite cheap nowadays.



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    Re: IAS makes BiS?

    ditto IAS on Amulets and gloves, 15% on all 4 gives +75% DPS.
    I think some uniques like Andariels Visage give IAS too.



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    Re: IAS makes BiS?

    While IAS gives you damage increase, a str ring will give you damage and armor...

    is the damage from IAS worth it? seriously question, because I haven't touched any IAS gear... maybe it would help me.



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    Re: IAS makes BiS?

    More IAS will trigger hit effects more often. Faster Fury generation, faster Frenzy ramp up, more life per hit, more stun etc.

    [editted out mistaken analysis]

    I've been testing adding lots of IAS. It does not multiply !! So 2 rings with 15IAS each is just 30IAS. It has the same diminishing returns as strength.
    I had assumed it would multiply because Weapons Master gives +10%IAS for polearms/spears. That is totally useless just for DPS ! With 100IAS elsewhere it's only +5% damage. Swords and daggers though the 15% damage is always multiplied.


    Last edited by gakky; 01-06-2012 at 13:35.

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    Re: IAS makes BiS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kblavkalash View Post
    Just get ring with both IAS and strength/vita, they are quite cheap nowadays.
    Maybe you got lucky but even blue rings of that kind are pretty expensive.




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    Re: IAS makes BiS?

    some more testing results :
    IAS on weapon is treated separately and does multiply other sources. Off weapon and skill IAS seems to added together.
    DPS = damage * (1 + weapon IAS) * (1 + off weapon IAS + skill IAS)



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