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    IncGamers Member omgmir's Avatar
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    HC Barbs!.. How are you guys doing?



    I'm interested to see how my barb bretheren are skilling themselves in HC.. i'm swapping around skills left right and center and still not even close to deciding on what I want to use for sure.

    This is what i'm using for right now: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculato...XTRY!Yb!aZaa.Z

    Switching to Bash with Onslaught for bosses, currently level 24 farming A2 for a bit before I start A3 even though i've already killed Belial. I keep seeing people on another forum I frequent rave about Rend with Bloodlust rune but i'm not sold on it, it just seems like a miniscule amount of damage. Maybe later in the game it picks up but idk..

    I'm of course using sword/board and don't plan on changing that anytime soon.

    How about you?




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    Re: HC Barbs!.. How are you guys doing?

    I'm also leveling a barbarian as my main HC character. No problems so far, as expected. I'm just about to start act 3 and level till 30 there and maybe a bit over, before movin to act 4.

    Stunlock for bosses is mandatory I think. It makes everything way easier. The only boss i did not use Bash Onslaught is Belial. I used frenzy there and battle rage instead of revenge.

    Your build, although, surprises me a bit. But I guess we all have different thought about defense and keeping yourself out of trouble kind of builds. I won't make a step without revenge ever, that's for sure. 8% hp/enemy hit can top you up in tough situations and you can literally spam it especially in overwhelming situations. And it's also quite a nice aoe dmg. Combined with ground stomp wreching smash, you can even pull the mobs closer for a bigger hp hit. Thats wha I usually do. I'm also using Cleave but with the more fury rune. I dont think the explosion is nice. Or that it will stay nice on higher level. It's like a plus swing for lower dmg. I rather spend that 1 more seconds swinging but topping my fury all the time.

    Rend is out of the question for me. For some reason I think its a single target skill (when it's abviously not). I use it for bosses during stunlock. But in the fields its just a big hit what takes 3 seconds to hit it's full dmg. I don't see a point in using rend when we have Seismic Slam which is absolutely the best skill in the game. It's a perfect CC skill in my opinion. I usually used it as a battle finisher after I jumped in to a group and started cleaving. Then I realised, if I use it as a starter it works like a charm. Basically its a ranged aoe spell with knockback. Now anytime i see a big group of monsters I slam 2-3 times from range and the way is cleared without any harm taken.

    I use bloodthirts as a passive, because I'm topped with fury most of the time and that 3% dmg is still kind of nice. Although it's not a game changer. I'm really sturggling chosing between jump with 300% armor/ignore pain and war cry with 15% dodge/threatening shout.



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    Re: HC Barbs!.. How are you guys doing?

    Tbh I tried using Revenge but I just rarely ever got to use it.. I ended up just walking around with full Fury and no way to spend it because Revenge wouldn't trigger. Cleave Rupture absolutely devastates packs for me, most of the time before my Ground Stomp stun even wears off.

    You forgot to link your build though!




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    Re: HC Barbs!.. How are you guys doing?

    I wasn't gonna post my build, I just wrote some of my thoughts about yours I still have much to work on. I'll try rupture though.



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    Re: HC Barbs!.. How are you guys doing?

    I am also playing HC with my main character a barbarian (secondary char is demon hunter). I am using very similar skills as DeluksZ. I'm at the tail end of A2 and have found that these skills are a pretty good mix of offensive prowess with devensive skills to bail you out when you get in over your head. At the end of the day, it is critical for the barbarian player to have a good idea of the relative toughness of mobs so you don't get swarmed by a group with harder mods. I too have tried to make use of rend for another HP restoring ability but find that it just doesn't feel that effective as an offensive ability.




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    Re: HC Barbs!.. How are you guys doing?

    I'm not 28 yet so I can't get War Cry, but I will be taking it when I can. The skills i've taken are not set in stone.. they are just the best of what I can take for right now, except for Rend which i'm constantly switching out for different things because I basically don't like any of my choices in that slot. I haven't found anything that matters because Cleave with Rupture is my 99% killer.

    I don't get how you guys like Revenge so much, you must spend a lot more time tanking than I do.. maybe you're using a worse weapon and kill slower I don't know.




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    Re: HC Barbs!.. How are you guys doing?

    There are enough mobs out there that can take a good chunk of my life that revenge feels like a necessity. Maybe it is just a crutch and I don't really need it, but I feel better having it as an option. It might not be so much about not doing as much damage as it is about not having as much +vita gear.... who knows.




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    Re: HC Barbs!.. How are you guys doing?

    Quote Originally Posted by omgmir View Post
    I don't get how you guys like Revenge so much, you must spend a lot more time tanking than I do.. maybe you're using a worse weapon and kill slower I don't know.
    I don't spend any time tanking. I have 300 dps (to my 4000+ hp) at the beginning of Act III. I cut them through like a hot knife cuts through butter. It's mostly 1, rarely 2 swings of cleave (with rupture... it really works with high dmg output). I just love how awesome that skill is. I hit very hard with it, it makes easier to kill mobs behind my back if I'm facing another way, and mostly, it's there if I need to top my healt for some reason. Mabye I'll never use it as it should be used (but from what I learned about NM with my SC tutorial character, I'll) but if there is only 1 situation when it saves me it's worth using. Nothing compares to stomping the mobs from 24 yards to you then revenge and see how they explode around on the screen from where they came.



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    Re: HC Barbs!.. How are you guys doing?

    Quote Originally Posted by DeluksZ View Post
    I don't spend any time tanking. I have 300 dps (to my 4000+ hp) at the beginning of Act III.
    Good lord, you must have much better gear than me.

    I'm nearing the end of A3 now at level 29 with 140 dps and 4.5k hp. Prioritizing vit over str on every piece if I have to choose. 42 dps 1-hand weapon.




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    Re: HC Barbs!.. How are you guys doing?

    Quote Originally Posted by omgmir View Post
    Good lord, you must have much better gear than me.
    That's my precious. Found her in the AH for like 3k gold.


    Tbh I spend more time browsing the Ah then fighting against the hordes of Hell I set Vita and Str as searched stats, set the level requiemnt (and the minimum stat if i'm searching for an upgrade), and then browse every piece of armor even if i'm not actually playing, just hanging around, watching TV, doing homework, ect. Believe me it's heaven. (And I was lucky enought to find ingame the piecec I needed the most, so now I'm at 4500+ HP)



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