Welcome!! How quickly will you play Hardcore?

[Red Verix]

I find that multyplayer sessions in any game seem to turn into a mad dash; rush here, rush there, kill, kill, sell, sell, rush back, use this skill because it's the fastest (no time to read new skill descriptions anyway), etc... and instead of playing the game, I am just running to keep up!

Rushing around and being efficient has it's place, but that comes later, imho.
(I.e. "gib rush plz" is for after you've already finished everything in normal 5 times with your eyes closed).

-hps

Couldn't agree more. I beat all 4 Halo campaigns co-op and each time my buddy and I were amazed when we realized we had no idea what we just did, what any of the levels were really about, what the character's names were, what that person was talking about on the underwater elevator ride, etc. We were too busy chatting and fighting. It's like autopilot. I had to play through solo to even realize WHY we completed certain objectives. I was so familiar with even the music I could recall every note but when I got the OST I realized I never really listened to it before.

It gets even worse in RPGs like WoW, where nobody has time to read the quest text much less savor the atmosphere.

I think way too much emphasis is placed on the developer's side of things rather than what an individual brings to it. People rate a game as "good" or "bad" as if it just IS that way, delivered as some package containing exactly 50 liters of fun, rather than examining how they approached it.

I'm an immersion junkie so that's why I'm going to such lengths to meet D3 halfway, but playing with friends certainly has it's own charms when people are patient and laid-back. Especially in HC, it sounds really fun. I'm totally looking forward to actually being afraid in dungeons.

[defog]

I disagree. The problem in Diablo 2 was duping. Becasue you were able to duplicate items, after one month of new ladder reset there were as much items as it should be reached after 4 years of playing. And since Diablo 3 client/server setup will prevent from dupe's, the problem will be way smaller.

Don't forget bots. Those combined with duping ruins the economy in any game. I don't think that having your stash persist through death is even nearly as bad. Besides you do have a "shared stash" in D2 too in the form of mules.

[Retardje]

The stash is just the new mule account. Just saves you a lot of time not having to relog 10 times. Its not like its a huge change from D2, in fact the non looting of corpses actually makes this more hardcore then d2 used to be.

About the duping/botting. Sadly, I never saw a game where they completely kept bots and such out. I dont think D3 will change that. Hopefully they keep it out as long as possible and if it gets through, control it as good as possible.

On the RMAH in HC. The only reason I could come up with, for myself that is, is they (blizz) dont want to get in trouble because someone just spend $100 on an item and died 2 mins after.

[Namik]

Don't forget bots. Those combined with duping ruins the economy in any game. I don't think that having your stash persist through death is even nearly as bad. Besides you do have a "shared stash" in D2 too in the form of mules.

But they won't get rid of bots. Only huge diffculty level can stop them. So hopefully bots will be useless on hardcore inferno.

[Dreadbringer]

Go through normal first (Need to boost my GF's Wiz -_-) and then it's all HC.

[defog]

But they won't get rid of bots. Only huge diffculty level can stop them. So hopefully bots will be useless on hardcore inferno.

I'm pretty sure there won't be nearly as many as there was in D2. It's obvious that they have more important things to do than try to prevent botting in a 10 year old game. But I guess time will tell!

[Karth]

On the RMAH in HC. The only reason I could come up with, for myself that is, is they (blizz) dont want to get in trouble because someone just spend $100 on an item and died 2 mins after.

This is exactly what popped into my mind about half a second after reading that HC won't have a RMAH. Too much potential liability for Blizzard.

[ZappaFan]

This is exactly what popped into my mind about half a second after reading that HC won't have a RMAH. Too much potential liability for Blizzard.

I don't think there's any liability danger for Blizzard. They have the disclaimer before you create a HC character.

[Raver]

I don't think there's any liability danger for Blizzard. They have the disclaimer before you create a HC character.

'What do you mean you warned me? Pfft. I don't read that crap.'

'Re-spawn me!'

[ZappaFan]

'What do you mean you warned me? Pfft. I don't read that crap.'

'Re-spawn me!'

**Crickets chirping**