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    Hardcore players: starting a HC character as soon as you can a suicide mission?

    I dread the thought of having to play a softcore character aaaaall the way through normal, nightmare, hell AND inferno only to dump him and start over with a hardcore character. I'm sure normal is quite survivable even without knowing what you're going to face, if you play extremely conservatively. The question is, other than more mods on mob packs, are the encounters very different in each difficulty in terms of scripting or do they tweak the damage and hp only? By that I mean, do you think you can employ the same tactics that worked on a normal boss on his inferno counterpart?



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    Re: Hardcore players: starting a HC character as soon as you can a suicide mission?

    If Blizzard designs their bosses in Diablo similar to how they do in WoW, I imagine what will happen is the bosses will telegraph the types of attacks and things you need to watch out for, but in the easier difficulties you will have a lot more room for shrugging them off. So the key to success will be to recognize those, and build up the habit of taking them seriously, even when you are in no danger at your current difficulty.

    Look at the ice mines Captain Daltyn drops. My bet is that in the higher difficulties, it will be much more important to run away from those.



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    Re: Hardcore players: starting a HC character as soon as you can a suicide mission?

    Servers are more likely to kill you right after launch than any champion/rare.




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    Re: Hardcore players: starting a HC character as soon as you can a suicide mission?

    I think we will find out when we play it, as soon as I have a level 10 character I will switch to HC. I have no doubt that my first chars will die to either/ and/ or stupidity/ noobiness to the D3 system/ not paying attention/ being distracted by my wif&/kid/ alcohol/ lag/ bug in the game (LEMS anyone?)/ cockiness. So it is not a question if I will die but rather when . But with every death I will learn and adapt and in the end I think I will finish inferno (I hope). But the most important is that I will have hours of fun and exitement. If you are afraid of losing your chars, maybe you should not play hc unil you are ready to accept that you (most likeley) will lose (most of) your characters. Do you remember your first encounter with Duriel in D2? I know he killed me in a couple of seconds the first time ;-), or being ice balled by Meph, swarmed by stigian dolls or fire hozed by Diablo. Good memories and good lessons learned



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    Re: Hardcore players: starting a HC character as soon as you can a suicide mission?

    Playing hardcore right off the bat probably is a suicide mission, that does not mean it will not be fun though. the excitement that every step may be your last is unmatched in softcore. I am sure most people will claim it was lag or other server issues (they did it in D2 every damn time) and my reply will always be the same, if you cant handle a lag related death then HC is not for you.



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    Re: Hardcore players: starting a HC character as soon as you can a suicide mission?

    Quote Originally Posted by GibItam View Post
    I think we will find out when we play it, as soon as I have a level 10 character I will switch to HC. I have no doubt that my first chars will die to either/ and/ or stupidity/ noobiness to the D3 system/ not paying attention/ being distracted by my wif&/kid/ alcohol/ lag/ bug in the game (LEMS anyone?)/ cockiness. So it is not a question if I will die but rather when . But with every death I will learn and adapt and in the end I think I will finish inferno (I hope). But the most important is that I will have hours of fun and exitement. If you are afraid of losing your chars, maybe you should not play hc unil you are ready to accept that you (most likeley) will lose (most of) your characters. Do you remember your first encounter with Duriel in D2? I know he killed me in a couple of seconds the first time ;-), or being ice balled by Meph, swarmed by stigian dolls or fire hozed by Diablo. Good memories and good lessons learned
    I know I will die many times before finishing inferno. But if tactics change for each difficulty, then taking a HC char through the higher difficulties without knowing what you're up against is silly. You'd need at least one new character per boss, per difficulty, to learn all the new tactics :P.



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    Re: Hardcore players: starting a HC character as soon as you can a suicide mission?

    If I understand correctly you will not get one shotted that easily in D3, however healing potion cooldown + time needed to cast a tp + no immediate save and exit could mean you bite the bullet if you enter a (boss) fight whilst noticing that your enemy is stronger than you.

    I have very limited knowledge from D3 this far (finished the Beta with a barb and a Demon Hunter and had not even a near death experience) so I think we can only tell once we progress in the full game as the Beta is only a very limited part of the game. I am looking forward on going head to head with act bosses on a HC char a love the addrenalin rush, but that is just my personal opinion. In the end the only differences between sc and hc is the one life and the RMAH.

    It sounds that a good solution for you would indeed be to first do a playthrough on sc (you need to reach level 10 anyway might as well continue). Before switching to HC then you know what you can expect, well at least for normal difficulty. I for one am looking forward to see how far I can bring a HC char on my first playthrough.



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    Re: Hardcore players: starting a HC character as soon as you can a suicide mission?

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Playing hardcore right off the bat probably is a suicide mission, that does not mean it will not be fun though. the excitement that every step may be your last is unmatched in softcore. I am sure most people will claim it was lag or other server issues (they did it in D2 every damn time) and my reply will always be the same, if you cant handle a lag related death then HC is not for you.
    I am sure most people will claim it was lag or other server issues



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    Re: Hardcore players: starting a HC character as soon as you can a suicide mission?

    Quote Originally Posted by Brokenstorm View Post
    Servers are more likely to kill you right after launch than any champion/rare.
    This. Thisthisthisthisthis.

    I had planned to until I started getting my first HCDC deaths in the beta. I won't play hardcore until Blizzard proves themselves trustworthy, which is a damn shame because I wanted to do HC right out of the gate. But you can't always get what you want.



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    Re: Hardcore players: starting a HC character as soon as you can a suicide mission?

    Quote Originally Posted by kayarxj View Post
    I am sure most people will claim it was lag or other server issues

    yup just like the d2 games. its amazing how 99% of the people who died in HC did so from lag



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