Can we PLEASE take off the rose tinted glasses?

**Zokar** · 24-04-2012, 06:13

Originally Posted by Frank_the_tank

The Cathedral, both inside and outside, is by far the worst looking environment so far seen in Diablo 3..

**Kitteh** · 24-04-2012, 06:17

*snuggles up on Zokar's lap* *purrrrrr* *pettingz?*

I'm siding over here with

**marshmallow** · 24-04-2012, 06:47

I'd agree with the Cathedral being the worst looking environment. Pretty much all the overworld areas look better. The caves (especially the well and the bone pit) and the various tombs are more interesting and atmospheric. The Cathedral is just so...generic. Leoric's room is pretty nice though.

**ElBozo** · 24-04-2012, 07:18

Originally Posted by marshmallow

I'd agree with the Cathedral being the worst looking environment. Pretty much all the overworld areas look better. The caves (especially the well and the bone pit) and the various tombs are more interesting and atmospheric. The Cathedral is just so...generic. Leoric's room is pretty nice though.

What boggles my mind is, how in the hell did they redecorate the whole place in such a short time period. Making it resemble more of an aircraft hangar in terms of space and adding long corridor sections (unfounded in D1 - supposedly the same cathedral) which would be more fitting in a modern military fps... Is the comet made of Warpstone (wrong franchise, i know) which reshaped matter around it? Or were the cultists and hordes of skeletons extremely busy rebuilding the whole place, while New Tristram was unaware of such endavor? They would notice a small mountain worth of stone blocks to make those spacious halls and pointless staircases?

Just some random thoughts on cathedral design - it doesn't really make much sense.

**Nizaris** · 24-04-2012, 07:26

If you were ascending, rather than descending, the design would have made MORE sense (though still some head-scratcher areas). But yeah, I've wondered about that design for some time. I think they just did it the way they did to make the contrast in depth more apparent.

**capnlarge** · 24-04-2012, 07:42

For those of you lamenting the loss of WUW and WUG... I have a feeling this element has not died. Keep in mind in the beta there are a lot of noobs who probably haven't even figured out how to open the chat window. There is still a trading channel and still the same ol' D2 trading window.

Although, personally if I ever see another WUG it'll be too soon.

**Wolfpaq777** · 24-04-2012, 08:02

Originally Posted by Frank_the_tank

No my friend, it is not. The Cathedral, both inside and outside, is by far the worst looking environment so far seen in Diablo 3.

Really is a shame, since it's the most iconic place in the Diablo universe.

Uh, do you even know what gothic means?

I'm sorry something about the cathedral has got your panties in a wad, but it's definitely more gothic than any other area we've seen so far in D3, and just as gothic as the most gothic locations of D2.

**Dahmer** · 24-04-2012, 08:38

Originally Posted by sammeh

Bartering created the community and the lasting appeal for many within Diablo II. This will be the biggest downfall of Diablo 3's community. Conversations just won't occur anymore, well atleast an extremely small fraction of what it once was in Diablo II. The game revolved around trading. Diablo 3 will revolve around rushing through Point A to Point B. I hope something creates the community, but I am not optimistic.

Diablo II communities are/were on forums and not just because of trading. It will be the same for Diablo III, we're here aren't we?

Besides that most of the time spent actually talking in DII for me had nothing to do with trading. My time spent trading was making threads on here and it was my only way to get a fair deal for everything I had and everything I wanted to get. Thanks to the auction houses I'll have to spend less time trying to get rid of something I don't need and can spend more time killing more ****

Trading in DII was just far too time consuming. Similar with finding a game for what you wanted to do, half the games I tried to join were a waste of time because the quest was done and you keep trying and trying and trying until b.net thinks you joined too many games and you have to wait a while before you can try again...

I was heavily addicted to DII and it was a lot of fun but it also had several serious flaws.

**HardRock** · 24-04-2012, 12:03

I only skimmed over the last 15-20 post, so these things may have been clarified by other beta testers.

There is a light radius in D3, but it can't be affected by items. It's not as extreme as in D2, where it often made 60-70% of the screen space pitch black, but it's there. If you mess with your color setting you can make it more extreme though. I don't know how exactly, but it's possible, since for me Fraps records videos from D3 like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFQSOPLl5L8
The actual game looks more bright than that however.

Creating games where the goal isn't a specific quest is still possible. Start a game with the last quest and then invite people from your friends list or from the public chat who wants to do the same thing as you. You can do full are clears like this for example.

**ElBozo** · 24-04-2012, 12:13

Originally Posted by Wolfpaq777

Uh, do you even know what gothic means?

I'm sorry something about the cathedral has got your panties in a wad, but it's definitely more gothic than any other area we've seen so far in D3, and just as gothic as the most gothic locations of D2.

I'm sorry but the whole discussion about gothic/not gothic is getting absurd. It seems that everyone but me has a formula how to Quantify or Measure enviroments in diablo series in "Gothics" and the more "Gothics" enviroment has, the better the game it is or something, i don't even...

Leaving "Gothics" to specialists, i'll just say that i'd prefer if architecture of Cathedral resembled the one that was in D1. After all it's the same place. It doesn't make sense how it changed diametrally over such short period of time. Or maybe a Wizard did it. Who knows at this point.