Roles of Madness. Mafia Thread

[Asrrin]

No Sath, sorry to burst your bubble. I'm simply looking at what everyone has wrote in the opening hours and I see Autti acting extremely suspiciously. Why would you be so quick to think I'm mafia again? Maybe you are hung up on the fact that I've changed my playstyle since coming back. If you noticed I got lynched day one in the second to last mafia game for exactly the same reasons as the last mafia game, and ended up being the cop. So if that's your line of reasoning I think you won't get good results considering I've flipped pro- and anti- town since coming back to the forums.

I like day one lynches. always have. I don't mind random votes day one. that's normal. I don't mind meaningless posts day one either. It's to be expected. But I do mind when two or thre people all seem to be choreographing a series of "joke votes" amongst each other and also fish for roles on day one. That raises some red flags in my opinion. If it doesn't raise flags for you, then something isn't quite right here.

[Asrrin]

That's not fishing. Hé was just joking

It's meant to elicit a reaction from someone, and it doesn't necessarily have to be you. Everything posted here will be over analyzed, and the best cover for someone to fish on day one is a "joke" like that.

[kestegs]

Just started and your falling behind already kegs? They are refering to the second post of the game I believe.

I guess I saw SK's post as such an obvious "I'm cop" claim that I dismissed it. I really don't think that he would be foolish enough to out himself as the cop on D1 of a day phase starting game. Not commenting on it is like ignoring the elephant in the room.

[Skjolde]

I really dont think that scum would be so reckless as to fish for roles (this obviously) on Day 1, where everyone is looking for an excuse to start a wagon.

[Bad Ash]

6am start wont be around for a lot of the end of day phases. Like the 6 hours leading up to it and the actual end of days.

Lots of spam. 8 pages in two hours, yowza. Heading to work will check back in later. some weird stuff going on, might be spam, might not be.

[Goryani]

The D1 story sounds like a "give all mafia godfather for the night" or "roleblock all investigators" type of ability. Powerful. And interesting to see that happen on a night when, by mod design, no other actions occurred. Why choose that dream the first night?

no its just the story to explain why the cult of the dark one don't stand out, as you would expect them to be, i dunno cultist or something.

sk claiming cop already? :P

Autti claiming to be mafia because mafia didn't choose that dream?

What do people think about not lynching day 1.
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most people have a power role and we have almost no information, would it be best to wait until D2 for a lynch (that way we hopefully have more information from Deaths / power role useage)

Bad Jcakes!

Waiting to lynch until we have more info delays when "more info" happens. The pursuit of a lynch let's town power roles make better decisions that night. The pursuit of a lynch lets the town make a better lynch decision the next day. And so on.

Lack of pursuit of a lynch benefits scum in many ways.

1. Information is kept hidden longer, which allows more information to be erased from town use during a night kill.
2. Scum don't have to expose themselves trying to lynch a townie (/wave Valhouros)- especially a townie power role.
3. Scum won't be lynched that day if no lynch occurs.

Vote: Jcakes

Obvious scum trying to hide is obvious.

I guess it all depends on how this dream thing works ......

That is a most curious thing to say. Why would the duration of the current dream affect whether or not we should lynch someone today?

how does the maths work? cos wouldn't the first lynch be highly likely to be a townie

D1 - No lynch because it's more likely to lynch a townie than scum.
D2 - No lynch because it's more likely to lynch a townie than scum.
D3 - No lynch because it's more likely to lynch a townie than scum.
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D12 - Finally! It's more likely to lynch scum than a townie. Too bad that's when scum win. Town loses.

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RQS for the new players (Solar Ice, Autti, Skjolde):
Do you think mafia have power roles? If so, what power role do you think mafia might have?

RQS for everyone:
How long do you think dreams can last?
How many dreams do you think mafia have to choose from?

[Skjolde]

Seing as RE said that everyone would have power roles (Right?), I think they Mafia has too. Not sure what roles they would have, so it doesn't get too unbalanced. I would have guessed that there is a sort of godfather type, but I suppose that's the dream god?
A role blocker could be on the scum team too. And depending on if there is a sort of tracker on the town side, there could be a ninja on the scum team. Can't really think of anybody else. Maybe a sort of scum role which can bypass all kinds of protection when trying to kill a person (like the protection of the doc). It's called a strongman on the Mafia Wiki. I guess there would be a place for such a role, with all the power roles in this game.

[Goryani]

2. The mafia used some sort of dream that would mess with our investigative roles. I think this sound pretty overpowered, and don't consider it to be very likely.

Why would that dream be overpowered?

Even with the rule about not having to spell correctly, misspelled vote? Sounds like a mafia team bantering to me!
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Vote: FredOfErix

I C Wut U Did Thar

[Skjolde]

Was there supposed to be a picture there Gory?

[Pyrotechnician]

D1 - No lynch because it's more likely to lynch a townie than scum.
D2 - No lynch because it's more likely to lynch a townie than scum.
D3 - No lynch because it's more likely to lynch a townie than scum.
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D12 - Finally! It's more likely to lynch scum than a townie. Too bad that's when scum win. Town loses.

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RQS for everyone:
How long do you think dreams can last?
How many dreams do you think mafia have to choose from?

Haha, I like the day layout explanation, very clear cut.

From RE's explanation the dreams are in effect until the next dream is chosen the following night, its in one of the posts a page or so back.

In a game with this many people, I wouldn't be surprised if they have about 10 dreams to chose from as that would create enough randomization to keep the game interesting. I guess my question is if they can chose to use the same dream multiple nights in a row or if its a one and done kind of situation.