Roles of Madness. Mafia Thread

[RlyehExiled]

Bad Ash(0): [Ankeli]
Valharous(5): [Sath], Lozhinge the unhinged, [fred], noodle, [kegs], [laarz], [koral], bad ash, Coju
Sathoris(0): [Pyrotech]
Coju(0): [Goryani]
Koral(9): fred, caluin graye, goryani, ankeli, sath, pyrotech, Kegs, Gwahir, Valharous

9 to lynch

Koral is locked. The day will end in 3 hours as scheduled.

[RlyehExiled]

@Gwahir: did I miss a vote? Did you vote for Val this day step?

[Gwaihir]

Can you point to me your post where you first voted Val?

@Gwahir: did I miss a vote? Did you vote for Val this day step?

Nope, I didn't actually vote him. Because I am a very bad speller and some games are more sensitive to that, I tend to copy/paste my votes from someone else and then check spelling. I did it to kegs, and then changed to RE's spelling in the following post, but didn't notice I grabbed the unvote line until you mentioned it.

[Bad Ash]

First off this is crazy. I am fine with a korial lynch because he's been on my radar since Day 1. However, I pretty straightforwardly asked goryani to reveal his day target (before he claimed his role was stolen) and he said something along the lines of "what makes you think I can do that".

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So he didnt have the role, wasn't going to give up information, and now just plainly agrees with it? Something isnt right about that. If korial is anti-town this is all moot I believe, but that is not sitting right with me at all.

Also, Val, I dont think anyone believed you, they just found a (better?) different target. Coju claims cop, FoE claims cop, and people are just blindly voting hardcore without questioning it too much. Confusing to say the least.

Korial is locked now so it doesnt matter, but I highly doubt that both are cops. Coju should be on the chopping block of korial is scum. If he is town, then FoE just did a hell of a swing job off of Val after gory was flaky about the role to begin with.

Unvote: Bad Ash
Vote: Korialstraz

Works for me. I can kill BA by night then, unless he can give me a good enough reason not to.

Bad Ash, got any good reasons why I shouldn't kill you overnight and do something else instead?

Seriously, do what you want. I am not going to be bullied into a power role claim by your threats. That is extremely scummy and anyone ignoring that is absurd. How else would you like me to respond to change your mind without role claiming? You'd be killing a townie, after trying to bully a townie into role claiming, and after ignoring my concerns with your claimed role after the night talk. Do I think you are anti-town? I have no idea, you basically have free range for anyone tracking you to make kills and get away with it because people are ignoring the cons to what you are doing and you are getting a free pass.

I won't beg, plead, or role claim with you, but kill me during the night and you lose a town plain and simple and even if you dont youve made me a prime suspect for the night kill. way to go. Really good job playing a town role (that was sarcasm for anyone who didnt pick up on it)

[Sathoris]

I highly doubt Ankeli has a killing ability so don't sweat it.

[coju]

Also, if FoE is mafia, why would he investigate you (coju) and say he found you innocent, do you think hes just making that up as part of his story?

Whats the possibility that either of you aren't sane? Another thing to consider since Auttie was the framer/tailor thing is it possible he tailored korial to look innocent N1? So many questions.

I asked before the game start whether I was sane or not. Also, a Day cop and a Night cop didn't seem too far fetched for me, after thinking about it for a minute.

Why he got a pro-town on me? If he is scum, he knows I'm town and didn't see me as much as a threat, I reckon... (?)

- One of us is insane
- The whole "hard to tell friends from foes" on N1 really did something
- Some third party role messed with Korial N1
- You are lying

I know I'm sane.
... True.... True...
... Also true, but I can believe point 2 better.
False.

And coju, whz haven't you shared your N2 investigation with us yet?

Kegs: at my count Korial is at L-3

I was blocked... Have you forgot that? All were blocked...

@Coju

Do you think FoE is making up his results regarding yourself/korial?
If so why did he proclaim his result on you to be innocent?

@Both
Do you think its possible you or your supposive counterpart are not sane?
What are the possibilities of there being two cop roles?

(((I looked back, and the "unable to tell friend from foe" comes from d1, before I was even able to send in a Night ability.

Spoiler

GAME START!

In the town of Sunopal, a dark pressence could be felt, that and the roiling thunderclouds above the city kind of suggest some evil is at work. Heroes and adventurers from the land gathered in the town to root out the cause of evil, the Cult of The Dark One, but the evil god had a trick up his sleeve, he blinded the heroes, so they could no longer tell friend from foe. Working though his cult he will slowly elimiate all who stand before him to gain power needed to lay waste to the entire world. Can the heroes use their powers and wits to uncover the identity of thier foes in time?

It is now Day 1, The day will last 48 Hours.

I wont throw out the option of that being a dream-state and my results, (and gory's first) to be opposite.

Honestly, thinking more about it, I could come to the conclusion that he is telling the truth. I'm am unsure about it, but lean more on him lying.
Why he proclaimed me as innocent I've answered above.

Sane/unsane: Yeah, that's a perfect option. I asked RE before and he told me I was sane.
2 cops: 100% likely, why not? There's an outed Day Cop, and now an outed Night cop.

Role name? N2 target? N2 result? Were you given any information about your sanity? Have you deduced anything about your sanity? Have you deduced anything about FoE's sanity? Do you think FoE is mafia simply because of the differing result on korial or is there something else?

N2 all actions were blocked........................................... .................................................. ..............
Sanity, yes, answered above.

[Ankeli]

Thanks for the reply BA. The night will tell.

[flubbucket]

Anymore "flavor" to your role you care to disclose coju?

[flubbucket]

Goryani's role was paladin cop. I'm curious if your's said anything like that.

[Goryani]

However, I pretty straightforwardly asked goryani to reveal his day target (before he claimed his role was stolen) and he said something along the lines of "what makes you think I can do that".

I mentioned that you assumed I got results before the end of the day. IF the original role thief was mafia, then I expected mafia members to learn of the results of the switch. One result would be learning details of the Paladin role that was just stolen. One such detail is the ability to receive results before the end of the day. I named you and kestegs as fitting this mold.

That wasn't the only reason I didn't claim early. I've seen what mafia do when a cop claims to have an investigation result but doesn't give results (CG did this to the mafia in Black Blood Brothers). It's paralyzing. A mafioso can take multiple actions at that point, but becomming interested in the cop's results is one of the safest paths. That path doesn't risk making a townie look more townie from a failed scumhunt, doesn't require having to defend or villify a fellow mafia, and doesn't require lurking. I didn't mention players fitting this mold, but you and kestegs also fit, as well as Noodle from his question during N1 about if I have investigated anyone.

So he didnt have the role, wasn't going to give up information, and now just plainly agrees with it? Something isnt right about that.

Is this addressed to me? I'm satisfied with FoE's claim because I put myself in a position to adjudicate FoE's claim. Staying silent for part of a day was instrumental.