Roles of Madness. Mafia Thread

[Skjolde]

No, maybe not for D1.

No, you didn't say that. I misspoke. I should have said "speaking for others".

[Pyrotechnician]

[QUOTE=korialstraz;8273162]Actually I was never suspicious of Skjolde. I attributed his way of playing to being new to the game. At least for the time being. I can still remember setting of several scumdars during my early days of mafia play, just because I wasn't aware of how the game flow worked. So for his first few posts, I'm willing to cut him some slack.

With that said, my comment on having the red flag ready was coined at Solar Ice, and the dots at the end was my way of pressuring Solar for answers, because he basically singled out Skjolde out of the people that were discussing the current dream from the story. I was wondering why he targeted Skjolde specifically.

I still find it interesting that as far as I've noticed, he has yet to reply.

I did just that. Seems you just thought the dots were aimed at my quote of Skjolde below. Imo it seemed very clear that I meant to pressure Solar Ice for answers as to why he singled out Skj.

Unvote: Pyrotechnician

I'll make sure to make my subtle pokes be slightly less subtle in the future.[QUOTE]

Thanks for the clarification korial and after looking back at the original post and the way it was worded with what you just said your pressure on Solar is quite clear. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

[Pyrotechnician]

Wow, that didn't work at all...repost so its clear, sorry guys.

Actually I was never suspicious of Skjolde. I attributed his way of playing to being new to the game. At least for the time being. I can still remember setting of several scumdars during my early days of mafia play, just because I wasn't aware of how the game flow worked. So for his first few posts, I'm willing to cut him some slack.

With that said, my comment on having the red flag ready was coined at Solar Ice, and the dots at the end was my way of pressuring Solar for answers, because he basically singled out Skjolde out of the people that were discussing the current dream from the story. I was wondering why he targeted Skjolde specifically.

I still find it interesting that as far as I've noticed, he has yet to reply.



I did just that. Seems you just thought the dots were aimed at my quote of Skjolde below. Imo it seemed very clear that I meant to pressure Solar Ice for answers as to why he singled out Skj.

Unvote: Pyrotechnician

I'll make sure to make my subtle pokes be slightly less subtle in the future.

Thanks for the clarification korial and after looking back at the original post and the way it was worded with what you just said your pressure on Solar is quite clear. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

[korialstraz]

Thanks for the clarification korial and after looking back at the original post and the way it was worded with what you just said your pressure on Solar is quite clear. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

No problem. These things happens. I actually almost said that the red flag comment was aimed at you. That would've been a fun turn of events wouldn't it? Thank god for being able to back track threads. =P

[Gwaihir]

Have to give props for that out of context quote. You almost had me believing I made such a major slip up!

Thank you Jcakes for picking up on that in my absence. Keeping track of things on a mobile device is not easy, despite my efforts.

So its a good thing you didn't actually make the major slip up then? Would hate to reveal that you are mafia?

I know, probably nothing, but the wording of that response bugs me a bit.

A lot of those might not make a lot of sense due to no context. Just an FYI if you click on the blue arrow next to the quoted persons name it will take you to the original post.

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Holy crap I can't believe I did not know that. You have just saved me a significant amount of time. I have been going back and using the search function on pages where I thought the quote came from. Thanks!

[Asrrin]

SK, I can understand hitting one or two of the scum tells and attributing it to being new. In fact, we've had several players lynched for exactly that reason. But to hit every, single scum tell in the span of less than 24 hours is more easily explained by the fact that not only are you new to forum mafia but also being new to being a mafia role.

I'm fine with either an Autti or SK lynch at this point, but SK keeps digging the hole deeper. I'll switch to him for right now.

Unvote: Autti
Vote: Skjolde

[korialstraz]

So its a good thing you didn't actually make the major slip up then? Would hate to reveal that you are mafia?

I know, probably nothing, but the wording of that response bugs me a bit.

Hmmm. Good point. Only thing I can say is I don't want to die on D1. Mafia games are too much fun for that!

[Goryani]

well if read the wiki a fair bit but with a game of 21 players all are meant to have power roles and i'm assuming there isn't like 5 cops or something haha, which just leaves me wondering other than the major roles what can there be? Assuming no masons.

Do you think mafia might be worried about 5 cops? Worried enough to choose a dream that might help protect against 5 cops?

You weren't pressuring me, well you did vote me haha but its cool.

I don't believe I've voted for you this game.

Are we even going to bother to spell anyone's name correctly in this game..

Loz has a chance!

but dont you just have to take their word for it at some point?
Maybe its my naivety, but assuming townie enables me to narrow down people to analyse?

Taking someone at their word sets up disappointment from being burned by a liar. I may have an opinion about someone but I'm going to be comparing that opinion with facts available to me.

I mean other than a cop, who you also have to take at their word.

Mafia have pretended to be cops before and lie to the town about their results. Sometimes mafia are given an actual cop ability/role.

but now dont i have the problem of appearing to vouch for him?

It wasn't the vouching so much as the apparent surety of my alignment. A townie can't know the alignment of another townie on D1 except in very specific circumstances - most of which involve masons. On the other hand, mafia know the alignment of just about every player in a game on D1.

@Flubbucket - What do you make of Autti's response?

The only reason I asked if you had a posting restriction was because you used a smiley in every single one of your early posts except for 1. Was hoping you'd say yes and I could throw the one at you as a lie. But, it proved more information than I would have thought. Skojde and kestegs both jumped to defend you for absolutely no reason at all. It was just a question and a very harmless one at that.

If it was a harmless question why would you be testing korial and preparing to "catch him in a lie" you shouldn't have means of verifying?

[Caluin Graye]

Fine.

Let's put that discussion to rest. It doesn't help us catching scum

All discussion lead to finding scum, as any conversation a scum is forced into is another chance for him/her to slip up and reveal him/herself. Therefore, all discussions are helpful, though there could be a case to made for some discussions being more helpful and relevant than others.

I don't think that's what you were trying to say, however.

I'm fine with either an Autti or SK lynch at this point, but SK keeps digging the hole deeper. I'll switch to him for right now.

Seconded. I first attributed Autti's posting style as 'flailing newbie', but I'm thinking the word 'mafia' needs to be part of that as well.

[Goryani]

Just interested in the reasoning behind the [how long do you think dreams last] question.

Replying somewhat out of order...

I wouldn't be upset about catching mafia accidentally spill the beans though that wasn't the primary goal.

Count me among those who think the D1 story hints at the dream effect. As I said earlier, that effect sounds powerful, but only if it results in thwarting investigative roles. One of my (many) assumptions about the dreams were that they affect the same night's actions as chosen. In other words, I thought the dream chosen last night would affect actions also chosen last night. Since no night phase has occurred, no actions should have existed for the dream to work against.

It's possible mafia chose an ability that essentially whiffed. It's possible the timing of the dreams was different from what I assumed. It's possible the dream does something else entirely. It's possible the story makes no reference to the dream. I thought something was hinky but not certain what that was so I asked the town for general opinions to get a better understanding not only of the game but players' point of view and state of mind.

Now, were you asking the first question because a) you didn't noticed RE posting or b) you wanted to see who didn't read that post by RE? I'm hoping A, as I don't see the benefit in trying to prod of things that are clearly stated somewhere in the thread.

When I asked the question, I hadn't yet read up to the page where RE answered before I even asked. I'd have rather his answer came after everyone had a chance to discuss the issues involved, but not much I can do about that.

Ank: You're funny It was a misspell. It should say "It".

Is the capital I in It also a misspell?

As for Skjolde, I know very well why he did it, and I already explained that.

Why are you certain that Skjolde thought that a defense was a) needed and b) in the town's best interests?