[WAI] Are DiabloNut numbers accurate for Firebats?

[mike20599]

Are these numbers right? According to DiabloNut, Hungry Bats does 280% weapon damage. That seems insanely high, and they also home in on enemies. Do they become single target instead of AOE? Also, Plague Bats has a ramp up time, but it only goes up to 5% higher than Dire Bats. You would think it would ramp up higher than that.

Dire Bats: Summon fewer but larger bats that travel up to 40 yards and hit for 220% weapon damage as Fire.
Hungry Bats: Rapidly summon bats that seek out nearby enemies and engulf them in flames for 280% weapon damage per second as Fire.
Plague Bats: Diseased bats fly towards the enemy and infect them. Damage is slow at first, but can increase over time to a maximum of 225% weapon damage as Poison.

[Beads]

problem is you'll have to stand still to channel it, so it has its downside, and yeah it's probably single target

[Horcsog]

So if you have a ****load of mana to be able to keep spamming that spell u win the game :P

[Beads]

So if you have a ****load of mana to be able to keep spamming that spell u win the game :P

lol, until inferno when you pretty much have to dodge everything to win, so probably not

[z00t]

I think that Hungry Bats will be either single-target or small-AoE. Ultimately, I think it's a fairly situational spell - it's something that you'll want to only use when there are no small, 'cannon-fodder' monsters around, and only a few high-priority ones left.

[HardRock]

Firebats seems to be one of the skills, where the runes really change things around, so we don't know how those numbers and effects compare to the base skill or to each other.

[pcguy]

Name	Damage per Second (%)	Max Damage (%)	Mana Cost	DoT?	AoE?	Multi-Target?
Firebats	150	150	122	no	no	yes
Dire Bats	220	220	122	no	no	yes
Vampire Bats	150	150	122	no	no	yes
Plague Bats	150	225	122	no	no	yes
Hungry Bats	280	280	122	no	no	no
Cloud of Bats	195	245	122	no	yes	yes

[HardRock]

To avoid confusion, your DPS column should be either renamed to Damage per Cycle or you should make it clear that those DPS numbers are only accurate if your APS is 1.

Also, personally I would call every variation of Firebats an AoE skill, except for Hungry Bats, which most likely targets multiple, individual enemies.

[pcguy]

AoE signifies damage done within a specified area that affect multiple enemies. You are correct that the Firebats skill is an AoE. I should probably re-name that category as Cylinder and have a different category called Cone.

I did not want to bog the spreadsheet down with too many categories, but you have a valid point.

Source: http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Aim...ll_Descriptor)

Area

Some spells affect an area. Sometimes a spell description specifies a specially defined area, but usually an area falls into one of the categories defined below.
Regardless of the shape of the area, you select the point where the spell originates, but otherwise you don’t control which creatures or objects the spell affects. The point of origin of a spell is always a grid intersection. When determining whether a given creature is within the area of a spell, count out the distance from the point of origin in squares just as you do when moving a character or when determining the range for a ranged attack. The only difference is that instead of counting from the center of one square to the center of the next, you count from intersection to intersection.
You can count diagonally across a square, but remember that every second diagonal counts as 2 squares of distance. If the far edge of a square is within the spell’s area, anything within that square is within the spell’s area. If the spell’s area only touches the near edge of a square, however, anything within that square is unaffected by the spell.

Burst, Emanation, or Spread

Most spells that affect an area function as a burst, an emanation, or a spread. In each case, you select the spell’s point of origin and measure its effect from that point.
A burst spell affects whatever it catches in its area, even including creatures that you can’t see. It can’t affect creatures with total cover from its point of origin (in other words, its effects don’t extend around corners). The default shape for a burst effect is a sphere, but some burst spells are specifically described as cone-shaped. A burst’s area defines how far from the point of origin the spell’s effect extends.
An emanation spell functions like a burst spell, except that the effect continues to radiate from the point of origin for the duration of the spell. Most emanations are cones or spheres.
A spread spell spreads out like a burst but can turn corners. You select the point of origin, and the spell spreads out a given distance in all directions. Figure the area the spell effect fills by taking into account any turns the spell effect takes.

Cone, Cylinder, Line, or Sphere

Most spells that affect an area have a particular shape, such as a cone, cylinder, line, or sphere.
A cone-shaped spell shoots away from you in a quarter-circle in the direction you designate. It starts from any corner of your square and widens out as it goes. Most cones are either bursts or emanations (see above), and thus won’t go around corners.
When casting a cylinder-shaped spell, you select the spell’s point of origin. This point is the center of a horizontal circle, and the spell shoots down from the circle, filling a cylinder. A cylinder-shaped spell ignores any obstructions within its area.
A line-shaped spell shoots away from you in a line in the direction you designate. It starts from any corner of your square and extends to the limit of its range or until it strikes a barrier that blocks line of effect. A line-shaped spell affects all creatures in squares that the line passes through.
A sphere-shaped spell expands from its point of origin to fill a spherical area. Spheres may be bursts, emanations, or spreads.