Chinese Farmers Destorying The US And EU Economy

[AngleWyrm]

My point exactly.
Top end items need to have a decent sale price and remain desirible amoung players.
If you can buy great gear or a fortune in gold for $10, there is no game as everyone will have everything easy.

IF the top end gear is actually worthwhile and desirable, then people would be willing to pay more for it. It is the game designer not the player that determines the actual merit of the items.

The eventual flooding of the market with the best items is a consequence of the game design. With large numbers of players, probability turns into statistics. If there is a 1/1000 chance of getting an item, it will appear once every thousand drops. The concept of "rare" become a mere time delay until that item drops.

The concept of "scarce" is very similar to "rare," but not identical. Scarcity can have various reasons other than drop rate. It has been attempted with gold sinks to reduce the net profit/hour of players. With loot, it may turn out that a particular worthless low level sword becomes scarce, because everyone liquidates them on sight.

[Jedouard]

To the OP, the devs already said that it you play outside your "real" region you won't be able to access real money transactions. So if you are in the US and you want to play with a friend from the EU, one of you can go ahead and set up on the other's region, but the RMAH will be off limits.

I don't know how they plan on determining that, but I'll bet it is through IP address. If that's the case, then foreign farmers would need a proxy, and that would likely ruin their ability to farm.

[Karpalo]

take a look at the bots doing public baal runs and rethink what you said about reflexes and skillfulness. however long it took to hone, the results are positively amazing.

granted, in the hands of an incompetent player, a bot will always be just as incompetent. eg I just got through swtor, there were people botting by having a herd of alts camp chests across the open world, standing in place, right clicking the air until it spawned- absolutely pathetic. doubly so because the in game currency was completely worthless in that game, and their method of gaining gold wasnt even effective.

Bot beats human in reflexes, but they can't adapt in similar fashion. Why bots can do Baal runs in D2 is purely due the fact that game becomes really really really easy with even mediocre gear. There were no Baal bots in 1.09 cause there weren't those ridiculous runewords and synergies available.

Designing an end game content bot for D3 will be much harder task and to be frank i don't see that happening.

[Hideo]

I'm pretty sure that after ONE year of D3 release gold will be worthless and the game will be full of bots. D3 economy is a mess. I don't see any design there. I don't understand how do they plan to maintain value of gold. It's clear it will be hyper inflated.

[Liqua]

in a game which is all about items it really is devastating to the experience if the top gear is something you can get without much effort. There is nothing to strife for in that case and everyone has the best stuff, now where is the fun in that?

Devastating ? The only thing that will spoil your experience is yourself ... no one is forcing you to use the AH; no one is forcing you to part with your money on the RMAH (or gold on the GAH); the experience you have is what you make of it.

Playing D2 I refused to trade with anyone adopting the attitude that if it was not found by myself then it was probably duped. No I didn't have the top end gear or all the best rune words but it meant that when a good item dropped I was more than pleased. It was all about self control.

[Karpalo]

Devastating ? The only thing that will spoil your experience is yourself ... no one is forcing you to use the AH; no one is forcing you to part with your money on the RMAH (or gold on the GAH); the experience you have is what you make of it.

Playing D2 I refused to trade with anyone adopting the attitude that if it was not found by myself then it was probably duped. No I didn't have the top end gear or all the best rune words but it meant that when a good item dropped I was more than pleased. It was all about self control.

Besides odds of finding that perfect best in slot item will be measured in astronomical scale. As stated before best in slot is a top tier rare (one tier above craftables) with 6 specific affixes with perfect rolls on all of them. Odds are that there will never be a character who has nothing to improve on.

[Enlil]

Devastating ? The only thing that will spoil your experience is yourself ... no one is forcing you to use the AH; no one is forcing you to part with your money on the RMAH (or gold on the GAH); the experience you have is what you make of it.

Playing D2 I refused to trade with anyone adopting the attitude that if it was not found by myself then it was probably duped. No I didn't have the top end gear or all the best rune words but it meant that when a good item dropped I was more than pleased. It was all about self control.

Have faith young Padawan, the master blizz devs will solve all the problems

[stillman]

Devastating ? The only thing that will spoil your experience is yourself ... no one is forcing you to use the AH; no one is forcing you to part with your money on the RMAH (or gold on the GAH); the experience you have is what you make of it.

Peer pressure and ostracism are almost as good as "force". If everyone else is using $2.00 top gear, you could be the laughing stock for upholding your strict play style or unorthodox philosophy. How would you keep up with your friends for example, especially since mf is averaged?

As for whether this fiasco happens or not, I can only guess that Blizzard would have some countermeasures up their sleeve. For instance, when too many people do get those astronomically perfect rares, they could patch the game so that an extra mod rolls on 1% of the rare drops. Make Inferno monsters a bit tougher to compensate.

[RazeBarb]

the wealth of europe

haah waaw.

[Boi]

Hey People

I was woundering what people think about the Chinese farmers playing on the US and EU RMAH.
The impact of this could be devestating and will drive prices down to $1.50 for top end inferno items due to flooding the market.

There is nothing blizz can do to stop this. I fear the RMAH will be worthless with everthing at minimun listing price in a matter of weeks or months.

It is more profitable for the Chinese farmers to play on the EU and US RMAH and exchage that money for Yuan via paypal, plus the wealth of europe and america means more money in the ecomomy for those regions on the RMAH.
What are your thoughts ?

You don't play for a living like they do, so it should be fine.