Chinese Farmers Destorying The US And EU Economy

**Azzure** · 08-04-2012, 01:28

Chinese farmers etc will not harm the top-end-item economy. They will very likely impact the commodities and gold markets though.

Why? Two reasons.
1) Gold farmers usually use several dozen bots controlled by 1 person as it is too expensive to hire actual people to play the characters themselves. Any bot in Diablo 3 will not work in Inferno (or maybe even hell) due to difficulty and need for quick reactions and skillful play. Writing a bot that can be as skillful as a person is impossible by a longshot. In MMO's its different, the environments are static, the gameplay is slow and its almost turn-based combat. This is easy to code, as you can simply queue up abilities for the bot to use against 1 monster at a time. Diablo 3 is the polar opposite.

2) Chinese farmers are typically not that skillful at actual gameplay. This is because they don't actually "play" the game, they farm the game. There is a big difference. Inferno in D3 requires extensive use of both build skill, gameplay skill AND building up gear progression. This means that Chinese farmers will simply not enter inferno, and instead farm for gold and magics in the easier difficulties.

**z00t** · 08-04-2012, 04:48

Always happy to read some of Azzure's insights :P.

Is it REALLY more profitable for Chinese gold farmers to do their farming on NA/EU servers? And how extensive do you guys think the spread of the gold farmers on NA/EU will be?

**Karpalo** · 08-04-2012, 06:16

Originally Posted by Enlil

Hey People

I was woundering what people think about the Chinese farmers playing on the US and EU RMAH.
The impact of this could be devestating and will drive prices down to $1.50 for top end inferno items due to flooding the market.

There is nothing blizz can do to stop this. I fear the RMAH will be worthless with everthing at minimun listing price in a matter of weeks or months.

It is more profitable for the Chinese farmers to play on the EU and US RMAH and exchage that money for Yuan via paypal, plus the wealth of europe and america means more money in the ecomomy for those regions on the RMAH.
What are your thoughts ?

What wealth? There is only so called "Greek wealth" in the EU and in the US.

**Karpalo** · 08-04-2012, 06:18

Originally Posted by z00t

Always happy to read some of Azzure's insights :P.

Is it REALLY more profitable for Chinese gold farmers to do their farming on NA/EU servers? And how extensive do you guys think the spread of the gold farmers on NA/EU will be?

That really depends. If high end content is challenging enough that's off limits for Chinese farmers. I think it will or would mostly affect articles like gold and gems by inflating their prices.

**Blackstream** · 08-04-2012, 07:52

Originally Posted by Azzure

This means that Chinese farmers will simply not enter inferno, and instead farm for gold and magics in the easier difficulties.

This is yet another reason I'm against inferno tier items dropping in hell that can be turned into inferno mats.

**AngleWyrm** · 08-04-2012, 09:21

Originally Posted by Enlil

The impact of this could be devestating and will drive prices down to $1.50 for top end inferno items due to flooding the market.

There is nothing blizz can do to stop this. I fear the RMAH will be worthless with everthing at minimun listing price in a matter of weeks or months.

Yeah, because it certainly would NOT be because of bad game design choices. It's those OTHER guys is why come dat econermy is fail.
/sarcasm

No, it won't be because of Chinese gold farmers.

**jwfcp** · 08-04-2012, 20:34

take a look at the bots doing public baal runs and rethink what you said about reflexes and skillfulness. however long it took to hone, the results are positively amazing.

granted, in the hands of an incompetent player, a bot will always be just as incompetent. eg I just got through swtor, there were people botting by having a herd of alts camp chests across the open world, standing in place, right clicking the air until it spawned- absolutely pathetic. doubly so because the in game currency was completely worthless in that game, and their method of gaining gold wasnt even effective.

**jamesL** · 08-04-2012, 21:34

Originally Posted by Enlil

The impact of this could be devestating and will drive prices down to $1.50 for top end inferno items...

yeah, it totally devastates me (as a consumer) that I have to pay low prices
oh no, what am I going to do ?

**DexA** · 08-04-2012, 23:48

Originally Posted by jamesL

yeah, it totally devastates me (as a consumer) that I have to pay low prices
oh no, what am I going to do ?

Its nice to have low prices in the real world obviously, but in a game which is all about items it really is devastating to the experience if the top gear is something you can get without much effort. There is nothing to strife for in that case and everyone has the best stuff, now where is the fun in that?

**Enlil** · 09-04-2012, 00:16

Originally Posted by DexA

Its nice to have low prices in the real world obviously, but in a game which is all about items it really is devastating to the experience if the top gear is something you can get without much effort. There is nothing to strife for in that case and everyone has the best stuff, now where is the fun in that?

My point exactly.
Top end items need to have a decent sale price and remain desirible amoung players.
If you can buy great gear or a fortune in gold for $10, there is no game as everyone will have everything easy.