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    IncGamers Member Brokenstorm's Avatar
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    Monsters Classification

    Would it be a good idea to switch monster info from Classification/Monster Family to Type/Subtype/Family

    Type would be Human/Undead/Beast/Demon...
    Subtype would be the same as the Journal lore entries (skeleton, unburied, quill fiend, imp, risen dead...)
    Family would be the name of the weakest monster of its kind (the first we encounter) such as risen, walking corpse...
    So skeleton and returned would both be in the skeleton family.

    Some monster such as the unburied and grotesque will have the same family and subtype but I think it would really help with monsters like skeletons, zombies, fallens, and khazra (goatmens)



    Last edited by Brokenstorm; 20-03-2012 at 11:59.

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    Re: Monsters Classification

    I'll start to list all the monsters I find, feel free to point out those I missed

    Beasts
    Beast
    Savage Beast -> Horned Charger
    Carrion Bat
    Carrion Bat -> Plague Carrier
    Carrion Nest
    Carrion Nest -> Plague Nest
    Corpse Worm
    Corpse Worm
    Khazra
    Moon Clan Impaler -> Dark Moon Clan Impaler
    Moon Clan Warrior -> Dark Moon Clan Warrior
    Khazra Shaman
    Moon Clan Shaman -> Dark Moon Clan Shaman
    Quill Fiend
    Young Quill Fiend -> Quill Fiend
    Scavenger
    Burrowing Leaper
    Scavenger
    Withermoth
    Withermoth
    Wood Wraith
    Wood Wraith -> Highland Walker

    Demons
    Hellion (not sure this is the correct name)
    Dark Hellion
    Imp
    Imp -> Fiend
    Treasure Goblin
    Treasure Goblin -> Treasure Bandit -> Treasure Pygmy -> Treasure Seeker (not sure about the order)

    Humans
    Cultist
    Dark Cultist
    Dark Summoner

    Undead
    Ghost
    Enraged Spirit
    Enraged Phantom
    Ghastly Gravedigger
    Ghostly Murderer
    Ghoul
    Ghoul
    Grotesque
    Grotesque -> Harvester
    Risen Dead
    Crawling Torso -> Hungry Torso -> Dust Biter
    Risen -> Ravenous Dead -> Decayer
    Rotting Corpses
    Walking Corpse -> Hungry Corpse -> Rancid Stumbler
    Skeleton
    Royal Henchman -> Skeleton -> Necromantic Minion -> Returned
    Skeletal Archer -> Returned Archer
    Skeletal Executioner
    Skeletal Shieldbearer -> Forgotten Soldier -> Ancient Hero
    Tomb Guardian -> Servant of Jondar
    Unburied
    Unburied
    Wretched Mother
    Wretched Mother -> Retching Cadaver -> Spewing Horror -> Deathspitter

    Other
    Activated Pillar
    Gatekeeper
    Skeletal Guardian


    Unclassified

    Act1
    Berserker
    Bloodhawk
    Rockworm
    Spider
    Spiderling
    Dark Vessel

    Act 2
    The Accursed
    Deceivers
    Dune Dervish
    Dune Thresher
    Dust Imp
    Electric Eel
    Fallen Grunt
    Fallen Lunatic
    Fallen Shaman
    Lacuni
    Sand Dweller
    Sand Wasp
    Stinging Swarm


    Act 3
    Blood Clan Khazra
    Colossal Golgor
    Demonic Hellflyer
    Demonic Hell Bearer
    Demonic Tremor
    Demon Trooper
    Herald of Pestilence
    Hulking Phasebeast
    The Morlu
    Shadow Vermin
    Siegebreaker Assault Beast

    Act 4
    Soul Ripper
    Succubus
    Tormented Stinger
    Bile Crawler
    Armored Destroyer
    Enslaved Nightmare
    The Mallet Lords
    The Oppressors
    Minion of Terror
    Subjugator




    Last edited by Brokenstorm; 08-04-2012 at 04:22.

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    Re: Monsters Classification

    I think that's a good idea, because it's uniform. That's why I changed the imp entry to reflect what it was called in the game.
    For the unclassified ones, best part is that it will tell us in-game which category they are, so that's pretty nice too, although I'm sure some will be unclassified still.

    This also has gameplay implications due to item mods, making this an even better idea.



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    Re: Monsters Classification

    Hey, speaking of monsters, have either of you folks noticed the zombie-like creature with the centipede wrapped around its body. It appears in the Demon Hunter video and its corpse can be seen in some of the skill videos depicting Act 3.



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    Re: Monsters Classification

    I just did a quick pass and there's a lot of duplicates in the monsters pages (like Carrion Bat - Carrion Nest/Pit Flyer, Pit Flyer Spawner and Gnarled Walker/Wood Wraiths)

    I'll try to merge them and clean them up a bit.




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    Re: Monsters Classification

    Did you see that there was a boilerplate for the monster pages?

    http://www.diablowiki.net/Boilerplate:Monster

    Not sure if you've seen that.



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    Re: Monsters Classification

    Quote Originally Posted by Brokenstorm View Post
    I just did a quick pass and there's a lot of duplicates in the monsters pages (like Carrion Bat - Carrion Nest/Pit Flyer, Pit Flyer Spawner and Gnarled Walker/Wood Wraiths)

    I'll try to merge them and clean them up a bit.
    The monster pages are a bit poor. It seems all the Wiki focus in the last weeks has gone for the achievements pages.

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    Re: Monsters Classification

    Quote Originally Posted by el shendee View Post
    The monster pages are a bit poor. It seems all the Wiki focus in the last weeks has gone for the achievements pages.

    I'm only one person and the achievements was a big job that needed seeing through until the end. I couldn't put it down and move on to other things or I would have lost track.

    I have been working my way through the monster pages too. Each one has basic details for each monster and I've been adding pictures for each as of late, once the structure is there they can be filled out with additional information.

    But the set up with wikis is that anyone can help but it's not working out like that for the past few months.
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    Re: Monsters Classification

    I see. :(

    I've tried to edit the monster index that appears at the bottom of each page, but it's blocked. The problem is:
    -There are some pages that have obsolete names from before the game was released. In the case of the Skeletal Construct, it's even placed among the demons instead of among the undead.
    -Some categories (mainly demons) have mixed pages of races, superuniques and lore monsters.

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    Re: Monsters Classification

    I've purged the demon tab and just added back links to the pages that I've done. I've kept that list (of removed links) and will work through it.

    Thanks for the heads up.
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