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    Re: OT: The Nuzlocke Challenge (Pokemon)

    Nice job, Drystan! Charizard has a lot lower stats than expected, although that moveset is pretty nasty.

    JDK: I think you should be fine going mostly blind. My only real recommendation is to explore the area around Mahogany before taking on Olivine/Cianwood gym leaders, since that makes the leveling flow a bit more smoothly. Mahogany gym is arguably easier than Olivine as well, depending on your typing.

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    Captures:
    Ecruteak City: Magikarp (Komari)
    Dragon's Den: Dratini (Kengo)
    Whirl Islands: Lugia (Rin)
    Route 26: Ponyta (Tezuka)

    Active:
    Rin: Lugia (42)
    Komari: Gyarados (21)
    Kengo: Dratini (10)
    Fabre: Eevee (33)
    Masato: Heracross (37)
    Tezuka: Ponyta (32)

    Deceased:
    Saya: Jumpluff (33)
    Hitler: Togetic (32)
    Lennon: Feraligatr (38)
    Kud: Raticate (35)
    Yuiko: Spearow (10)
    Mio: Sudowoodo (27)
    Sasami: Drowzee (10)

    ...so, that was bad. lol.

    Hitler kicked the bucket to a severely underleveled Geodude which used Selfdestruct. Togetic actually has pretty good defense, so that was a shocker. It was certainly a sign of things to come, if nothing else.

    Clair ate through the majority of the rest of the team. Her first Dragonair died pretty fast to a trio of Ice Punch from Lennon, but her second one got in a pair of critical hit (shocker) Thunderbolt, killing him off. I assumed the second one wouldn't come, so I chose to give Lennon an X Special instead of a Hyper Potion. Figures. Kud finished off the remaining pair of Dragonair, avenging Lennon to an extent. Kingdra came out, and critical hit Kud with a Surf. Figures. [2] At that point, I was pretty sure it was game over, to be honest. Masato in his level 33 (?) glory was more or less all that remained. He managed to apply a pair of Leer, while Kingdra was strangely spamming Smokescreen. A timely swap to Yuiko ended with her eating a Hyper Beam. That sacrifice proved worthy, however, as Masato finished off Kingdra with a trio of Horn Attack, tanking a Hyper Beam himself along the way.

    Well, that sucked. No access to any HM, and nothing but a mid 30's Heracross to take on the Elite 4. Most of the capture zones were already burned, but fortunately Ecruteak had a small bit of water, leading to Komari. A bit of leveling got her to evolve, and Gyarados thankfully can learn every water-based HM. With that, acquired the final badge, and even found Kengo along the way. Moved east of New Bark Town to test out the trainers, but after Mio had to sacrifice herself just to keep Masato alive against the very first trainer, it was time to head back to Whirl Islands for Rin. Master Ball made that relatively easy, though I decided to sacrifice Sasami just to try to hit the lottery with an Ultra Ball. It failed, of course.

    The path to Victory Road was simple with Rin in tow. Aeroblast supposedly has a super high critical hit ratio, but still hasn't managed to pull one off. Figures. [3] Surf provides coverage, and also made Victory Road a walk. The rival caught me a little by surprise, but he got swept pretty quickly. Her other attack is Fly, which I hope to swap out eventually for Psychic.

    Not sure if taking on the Elite 4 with that team is wise, especially since I can't remember their typing or level. Might grind a bit to at least get Fabre to evolve into Espeon. Tezuka becoming Rapidash wouldn't hurt either, though I'm pretty sure he can't learn any dynamic fire type moves, and his special attack sucks compared to his regular attack anyway.

    EDIT: Finished off the Elite 4 after attaining Espeon. It turns out I missed the level where he gets Psybeam by 1, so he ended up stuck with just Bite, which actually proved useful against the first of the Elite 4. Rin handled the majority of the work, but Masato and Fabre had to pull their weight just to conserve PP. After the fourth battle, Rin was out of PP entirely, so she had to sacrifice Aeroblast to learn Icy Wind. A sad day. Well, not really. That was absolutely needed for the final battle, and the team would've certainly died regardless of her PP situation had she not made the switch. Onwards to Kanto. Relevant team members for the E4 were Masato (38), Fabre (42), and Rin (45). Maybe should've leveled more, but no losses outside of Aeroblast (sigh), so I guess it's okay.
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    Re: OT: The Nuzlocke Challenge (Pokemon)

    Congrats on completing the first area.

    You said that Charizards stats were a bit lower than expected. Is there anything that reduces them? I know that whenever they're involved in a battle, they get X points to something, and when they get so many points, they geta bonus, but Charizard was the only one I used. Does throwing an EXP Share around, or battling pre-evolved forms hinder Stat Growth?
    Also, when you get the Stat boosts - Calcium/Zinc/etc - should you use them immediately, or not, because I couldn't use them on Charizard. He was already over the stats you can use them on. Do they help, hinder, or remain neutral in Stat Growth?

    Pokerus is a virus you can get by capturing random Pokemon. It basically lasts XY hours, but will spread to your Party Pokemon. Within the PC, it's time will not expire, so if you keep one with Pokerus in the PC, you can keep infecting your new captures.
    I don't know exactly what it does, but it gives any infected Stat Boosts.

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    Re: OT: The Nuzlocke Challenge (Pokemon)

    I don't know much about EV/IV stuff, since it just seems like too much to put into a game. I think IV is like "natural talent", meaning a wild level 100 Pidgey could have any variety of stats due to IV, while EV would be like "hard work", aka battling will affect stats beyond EXP/leveling. Those stat boosting items affect EV, and EV can only be developed up to a certain point, which is probably why they stop working. Pokerus doubles EV growth rate. I think opposing pokemon have different EV, so you would battle Golbat ad nauseum for speed boost, or something. That's just my understanding. Could be wrong.

    All that silly science aside, I just figured Charizard would have better stats than that. >_>

    Finished off Kanto, avoiding all captures aside from a Snorlax (Doruji) in Vermillion City which eventually kicked the bucket to Hyper Beam spam from Lance in a grinding session. It probably would've been better to just stop after the first half, since the second half is just... meh.

    Active:
    Masato: Heracross (46)
    Kengo: Dragonair (45)
    Komari: Gyarados (21)
    Fabre: Espeon (52)
    Rin: Lugia (49)

    Mindlessly grinding away during breaks to take on Red, but will probably get bored before that ever happens.

    EDIT: I think I'll try White 2 on my own instead of this slugfest. If anyone else goes for later generations, will update here with them. Otherwise, good luck to you all ~
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    Re: OT: The Nuzlocke Challenge (Pokemon)

    you're right about EVs. There's a cap (510?) and every 4 points adds 1 to a given stat. This is what pokemon comes down to if you reallly want to be top-notch

    For example, I trained My Shuckle in Ruby Version for Sp. Def. and HP, and he had a Bold nature (high def, low att), giving him a total of 539 def, 540 sp def, and 217 att. Had I not trained those 2 stats, his HP would have been as low as about 150, which is awful

    Ofc, w/o access to the entire map of the game it's tough and kinda pointless to grind one set of pokemon for a specific stat boost. Unless you want a bonus 63ish to your attack or something before the first gym which would be entertaining.

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    Re: OT: The Nuzlocke Challenge (Pokemon)

    That's where I lose interest in trying to follow it. Having to battle only one pokemon, and run away from all others. To look into that much info of which you should battle, and which you should run from. Plus, it's only valuable if you're on an original gameboy, and have people to challenge. I don't believe you need that much for versing AI.

    I started Silver, and lost half my pokemon at the second, unexpected Rival Battle. I was really wanting two that were lost, so I took it as a defeat. I rerolled, and grabbed a... Fire type named Zuko.
    I have played this version before, but not seriously, and I didn't know what I was doing then - I have very little knowledge of it, or what to expect.

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    Re: OT: The Nuzlocke Challenge (Pokemon)

    I played Crystal before. Battle Tower is just awesome there. After Crystal played one game of generation 1, but that was nowhere fun as Crystal.
    Now I started LeafGreen to see something new, using those rules there. As I didn't know what pokemon is in which ball, I simply choosed the middle one and got Squirtle as starter. As my pokemon must not die, I play safe here. Immediately leveled Squirtle all the way to 15 in the first grass :P
    Brock was easy, so was second rival fight. I bought Magikarp from some guy. Misty was also easy opponent for my well leveled Wartortle over there. Got Rattata from grass. Third rival fight was challenging, but truth is only his Bulbasaur was challenge cause of my weakness to that type. Moved along and caught Bellsprout in the grass, but my Magikarp fainted there. Rattata evolved into Raticate. My plan is to level up both Raticate and Bellsprout, as well as evolving Blastoise, however that might take some time leveling. After facing rival third time I decided to keep my pokemons at good levels to avoid any surprises, cause it wasn't easy fight. I hope future battles will be challenging like that to keep things interesting. I hate when I 1 hit kill 99% opponents and then suddenly face tought challenge just like that.
    I'm kind of sad I didn't choose Charmander, that could be interesting.

    Pokemons:
    Turles (Wartortle) lvl 30
    Fangkiller (Raticate) lvl 21
    Cvet (Bellsprout) lvl 10+ ? can't see now

    Now I notice I have loading problems, don't have them with Crystal though. I'll see later what's wrong.

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    Re: OT: The Nuzlocke Challenge (Pokemon)

    Ok, quite a bit has happened. I just beat the Olivine Gym. I went crazy for a dratini before learning that I could have gotten an eevee instead, which I would have preferred. Oh well. I also caught a nidoran, which I just decided that I will use. I still have my starting pokemon around, but I do not like it very much at the moment.

    Trainer: Joanna
    Rival: Nagisa
    Active Pokemon
    OMG (Meganium)
    Jdkerr (Dragonair)
    Hrus (Nidoran)

    I caught a bunch of other critters, too, but do not plan on using them. My slow progress will continue!

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    Re: OT: The Nuzlocke Challenge (Pokemon)

    I've made a little progress too. I had to restart a couple times, but have a good team now.

    Let's see if anyone can recognise my theme:

    Current team:
    Zuko, level 19 Quilava
    Kyoshi, level 18 Ratatta
    Momo, level 10 Zubat
    Due, level 11 Bellsprout (HM Flash, HM Cut)
    ???, level 5 What the hell is a Unown?
    Egg, level 0 Egg.

    PC:
    Tho (Oddish)

    Deceased
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    Haru (Geodude - level 4) - Assumed death. I changed out accidently to Geodude verse Bellsprout, and it got one-hit-KO'd. Not sure if it was in this game or the last, so calling it gone.

    Current location: Ilex Forest

    Just running around, overlevelling, because my previous run was taken out by my rival (SunsetV). He actually has a decent team to start off with, and Silver seems somewhat difficult. Hard to have multiple overlevelled, as the EXP from wild encounters is fairly low at the moment.

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    Re: OT: The Nuzlocke Challenge (Pokemon)

    I am now a Pokemon Champion, having defeated the Final Four. They were a pushover, I suppose.

    As for pokemon, I have caught a few that I have no intention of using. I added a legendary flying/psychic type named Frozzzen to the mix, though, which is nice. I still don't like Meganium. I caught a Ponyta, which I am considering using.

    Trainer: Joanna
    Rival: Nagisa
    Active Pokemon
    OMG (Meganium)
    Jdkerr (Dragonair)
    Hrus (Nidoran)
    Frozzzen (Lugia)

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    Re: OT: The Nuzlocke Challenge (Pokemon)

    Saving on my Leafgreen doesn't work, however I started new game Crystal version this time. I don't play by this rules and also have a question. In what game is hardest battle tower? I started Crystal just to play that challenge, but I do wonder how hard or easy are battle towers in other versions?

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