A few general questions (Need a Classic expert!)

[Ansi]

I quit seven years ago. Now I'm back, trying to make a few decisions, based on the answer, of these three questions:

• Is it necessary to use a +AR set in hell for PvM? If yes, which one is the 'best'? (Angelic's/Hsaru's/Sigon's)

• How does 50% Damage to Undead work on weapons? How efficient is the bonus really?

• What exceptional weapon type (both 2H and 1H) would be considered the most valuable, if it had perfect stats (Like [200% ED] and [Adds 14-20 damage])?

[IsThisNamePermanent]

Sigon helm + belts or Helm can give you Attack Rating I believe.

Angelic rings + Angelic amulet is by far the best option for attack raiting, throw in the armor and you get magic find health +1skill and fire resistance. I use it on my budget find item barb. With out proper Attack Rating you will be swinging for ever and not doing any damage.

I usually see people wanting Executioner swords, naga axes, paladin scepters with +all paladin skills +specific skills, necromancer wands with +2 necro skills +specific skills +20% faster casting +multiple high resists.

Not an expert but I figured I would throw in my 2cents.

[darknessproz]

Angelics is by far the best ar set there is. Although its overkill in pvm. You can do better using rings with 100ar, 15str resist etc.

Mart, nagas, bh, exe, lance are the most valuable weapons. bec-de-corbins, ancient axe etc aren't as valuable, but they do have style points imo^^

[sirwhere]

I quit seven years ago. Now I'm back, trying to make a few decisions, based on the answer, of these three questions:

• [1]Is it necessary to use a +AR set in hell for PvM? If yes, which one is the 'best'? (Angelic's/Hsaru's/Sigon's)

• [2]How does 50% Damage to Undead work on weapons? How efficient is the bonus really?

• [3]What exceptional weapon type (both 2H and 1H) would be considered the most valuable, if it had perfect stats (Like [200% ED] and [Adds 14-20 damage])?

1. Any AR set is good. One is usually enough, but you can use the three together until you reach a good level (dual angelics, sigon helm/glove, hsaru boot/belt).


2. It adds some damage, but not as much as the add claims. Basically, the damage formula is like

final dam = weapon damage * [100% + str mod%+ skills mods% + other mods%]

The undead bonus goes into the bracket's 'other' mods. Example for a 150 str barbarian, with lev 20ish whirlwind and mastery, wielding a mace. The modifier becomes

[100 + 150 (str) + 120 (ww)+ 100 (mastery) + 50 (undead)]

The undead bonus makes it go 470 --> 520 times base damage. Helps, but it's no big deal. It's not like he's going to rip every undead apart with it lol.


3. Martels have the highest average damage, so they're #1 in value. Lances the highest damage for a max range weapon and are preferred by some duelers. Battle hammers are also highly seeked by duelers. For pvm no one uses 1h weapons

[Ansi]

Thank you for the answers.

I'm still not sure whether I should go without a set and go full rares instead. I'll probably go full rares since I use a Grim Scythe and have high req's.

[VThief]

With a grim scythe and the high dex (140?) you'll need you won't require much AR from items to be effective in PVM. Even dueling will be fine against all but barbs in general and the occasional high defense paladin - but you'll have no trouble hitting sorcs or zons or necros for e.g.

Many peoples mf/gf barbs seem to use martys, goldskin, +2 ammy with resists + mf and/or gf, rings with leech/resists/mf/gf and whatnot without any AR sets. I've never tried it like that and often use angelic jewelery+armour as said above.

Can someone say whether they feel their AR is a problem with the unique/rare setup on a no dex build against hell trav for e.g.?