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    Re: Farming Subtle Essence

    Thanks tuberchimpy, that was very kind of you.



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    Re: Farming Subtle Essence

    @Markco/tuberCHIMPY: Please stop backing up your arguments with alts. This thread is quickly becoming a dead horse. I haven't see a single person who is a regular on this site come to your defense. Your actions clearly upset Blizzard/Activison thus your Ban. The owners/operators/admin of this site are known to Blizzard. Many of them got BETA access on the first wave of public invites. If Blizzard had a problem with them or the dozens of other "Fan Site" out there they could easily cut off their access to the BETA.

    I believe your actions if they where done after the game's release would be tolerated. A BETA isn't an opportunity for any entity to get a jumps start on a revenue generating guide. A BETA purpose is to test game systems both software and hardware prior to a release.

    Your point that the advertisements on this and other fan sites are revenue generators is mute. Advertisements are a necessary evil for any site that requires the storage space and bandwidth that a large fan site require. Blizzard accepts this or they would have litigated to shut down this site a long time ago.

    Please stop advertising/humble bragging about your product/actions. Advertising on a FREE site for your guides is just poor taste.

    If you want to discus other Market issues as a point of theory like every other post on this forum, jump in. You might learn something.

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    Re: Farming Subtle Essence

    One other big difference is even if they wanted to ban inc gamers people, they don't necessarily know which account belongs to Azzure or Flux or Elly. It's a lot easier when you post a video of you on your account. They can quickly and easily pinpoint which account belongs to you, and then ban it.

    Also, you've been banned for violating terms of use. The websites don't violate the terms of use, though they may violate other copyright laws, and could be pursued under that avenue. Even if blizzard did determine Azzure's account, you can't really use the TOU to justify banning Azzure's D3 account for actions he takes on a web site, as long as he is not misusing his account.



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    Re: Farming Subtle Essence

    Hey I made my post under the influence of an entire bottle of Jack Daniels.

    I got a bit carried away in a number of threads, sorry dude.



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    Re: Farming Subtle Essence

    For shame Bowzer... That stuff should stay in the Pal's forum...



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    Re: Farming Subtle Essence

    Quote Originally Posted by Naviaras View Post
    @Markco/tuberCHIMPY: Please stop backing up your arguments with alts. This thread is quickly becoming a dead horse. I haven't see a single person who is a regular on this site come to your defense. Your actions clearly upset Blizzard/Activison thus your Ban. The owners/operators/admin of this site are known to Blizzard. Many of them got BETA access on the first wave of public invites. If Blizzard had a problem with them or the dozens of other "Fan Site" out there they could easily cut off their access to the BETA.

    I believe your actions if they where done after the game's release would be tolerated. A BETA isn't an opportunity for any entity to get a jumps start on a revenue generating guide. A BETA purpose is to test game systems both software and hardware prior to a release.

    Your point that the advertisements on this and other fan sites are revenue generators is mute. Advertisements are a necessary evil for any site that requires the storage space and bandwidth that a large fan site require. Blizzard accepts this or they would have litigated to shut down this site a long time ago.

    Please stop advertising/humble bragging about your product/actions. Advertising on a FREE site for your guides is just poor taste.

    If you want to discus other Market issues as a point of theory like every other post on this forum, jump in. You might learn something.

    <Steps of Soap Box>
    Try not to fall off the soap box.

    Advertisements and revenue for storage space and bandwidth is complete BS. My last forum had 8,000+ members and cost me $270 a month. Believe me, you can make quite a bit more on a monetized forum than that. I ran mine for free because of the gold guide sales, but that's besides the point.

    I am not tuberCHIMPY. You sir are an arrogant fool yourself, something you seem to easily brand me as being as well.

    I will be more than happy to "jump in" on the strategies of these boards, in fact I'm here because I like reading the discussions. I've got quite a bit to offer here as well, and you'd know that if you read my blog that I write for every day.

    I think I'm done arguing this. I'll be back soon with more ideas and strategies.


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    Re: Farming Subtle Essence

    Bottom line, you tried to sell/promote a gold guide before game release. No matter how you look at it, its gunna be viewed as a scam.

    If the games comes out and your successful then more power to you, go make and sell your guide i won't care.

    And if you want to participate in the RMAH discussions that's fine too. Just plz stop promoting gold guides till after release plzzzz, its just sooo annoying. Its to the point every time i see the name "marko", i roll my eyes in protest.

    Sorry but you racked up alot of bad PR and you have nobody to blame but yourself.



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    Re: Farming Subtle Essence

    Quote Originally Posted by AKUder View Post
    One other big difference is even if they wanted to ban inc gamers people, they don't necessarily know which account belongs to Azzure or Flux or Elly. It's a lot easier when you post a video of you on your account. They can quickly and easily pinpoint which account belongs to you, and then ban it.
    Considering how I got my key, Blizzard definitely know my Battle.net ID.

    I am closing this thread, I think everything that needed to be said was said.



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