Farming Subtle Essence

[Bowzer]

Like I said before, there are hardworking people on these forums, dedicated to bringing free high quality content to its members.

Your website is an insult and a ripoff of everything diablo markets stands for.

Please **** off.

[tuberCHIMPY]

disclosure I visit Markco's blog quite a lot and chat with him via email occasionally

Hey why all the anti - Markco hate ? Seems a bit unnecessary and over the top. I had to sign up to post a reply in this thread and rule one was not troll/flaming. I understand if you don't like that Markco want to profit directly from his tips and tricks, but that doesn't necessitate all this hate.
You don't have to spend money with Markco if you don't want to, that's freedom of choice. Also I myself have no intention of spending any of my money on Markco's gold guide ( sorry Markco, it's true ), but there's an awful of lot free info and debate to be had from Markco just by reading his blog and the debate in replies to his posts.
There's 3 diablo 3 blogs I read almost religiously every day, and Marcko's is one of them, because those blogs are where I find the most up to date, insightful, regularly updated, and thoughtful info and debate on Diablo 3 economy ideas. What I'm saying is that I've found that Markco blog is worth a regular read for good free info, and is one of the 3 best as far as I'm concerned. You don't HAVE to spend money with Markco to get great info but you can IF YOU WANT TO.

Internet haters are always gonna hate, but if you are serious about trying to make gold and real cash in Diablo 3. Then you could do a lot worse than discard your prejudices, take of those blinkers and at least read what Markco has to say BEFORE making your mind up about him. I find it very telling that Markco is taking a capitalist approach towards this - "maybe if I provide an information service people will pay for it?" yet is it seems the people decrying him the most for this are Americans living in the land of the "free" where capitalism is king. Oh wait I see "soviet", maybe that explains things.......

[galzohar]

What I don't like is someone claiming he can teach people how to do things in a game he haven't even played. It's sounds just as serious as someone coming here and saying he's going to be a Starcraft 3 pro and trying to promote his Starcraft 3 guide when the game isn't even out yet.

The "there are people here intending to do the same for free" is just icing on the cake for me. The real reason is that I can't trust someone who claims to be able to teach me something to do something he obviously doesn't know how to do.


Once you get proven results (not meaningless beta crap or most-likely-fake "I farm too much gold" bans), then maybe people would respect your "guide" more. And even then they'd probably have more respect to an open forum such as this where both information and criticism regarding that information are openly available.

[Elly]

That's proof that you are a little attention whore

Hey SEOLJL, feel free to disagree but can I ask you keep it civil. Thanks.

[Brokenstorm]

I'm gonna farm for the next 5 hours with my 200mf char just to prove his claim is pure bull****

edit: currently making 12k per 30min, still not baned

[Nerney]

AHAHAHAAHAH "Banned for too much gold find" LOLOLOL are you kidding me?!
you got banned because your trying to sell some crap made up gold secret scam.

It looks like that's probably closer to the the truth. It sounds like the 'exploit' they banned you for wasn't exploiting the gold system, but rather exploiting Beta access to create/advertise your Diablo 3 Gold guide - which makes a lot more sense. Yes, you're not selling it at the moment, but your intentions are clear, given your many advertisements.

They want players to use the Beta as a preview/test, not get an edge up on creating a guide to sell for commercial gain (and possibly compete with their own guides that they profit from) - as they clarified in the second email. It's in the terms of service, and in their rights to put a stop to it.

You've also been twisting the ban itself into its own advertisement of sorts, claiming you were banned for making too much gold - when it sounds like this may not be the case. You were banned for trying to turn your early beta access into a head start on commercial profit.

Of course, once the game comes out, more power to you. There's nothing inherently wrong in selling info to others that don't wish to spend time following all the forums where people figure out/discuss these tips for free, and I applaud your ability to turn farming into a profitable venture. HOWEVER, it sounds like you'll need to closely read the terms of service or contact blizzard to make sure that they won't ban your account for selling 'unauthorized guides' in the full game too.

[Pheal]

A.Account Eligibility.
You may establish an Account only if you are a "natural person" and an adult in your country of residence. Corporations, Limited Liability Companies, partnerships and other legal or business entities may not establish an Account. Individuals prohibited by Blizzard from using the Service may not create or use an Account, and doing so and may result in severe civil and criminal penalties. By accepting this Agreement, you hereby represent and warrant that you meet these eligibility requirements.

Are you even registered commercially to sell these guides? If you are, then it's against the TOS, if you aren't then your doing fraud lol.

B.exploit the Service, a Game or any part thereof for any commercial purpose, including without limitation (a) use at a cyber cafe, computer gaming center or any other commercial establishment without the express written consent of Blizzard; (b) to communicate or facilitate any commercial advertisement or solicitation; (c) for gathering in-game currency, items or resources for sale outside the Game without Blizzard's authorization; or (d) performing in-game services in exchange for payment outside the Game, e.g., power-leveling;

You got banned for this, don't try to put the blame on them.

[Azzure]

I'll keep the thread open but please refrain from insulting each other.

Just to help clear things up, I think it is pretty clear you were banned for using the Beta for commercial gain (selling gold-guides etc), not because you produced too much gold (there is nothing in the ToS that punishes people for being good farmers, unless they use exploits/hacks to do so).

[Markco]

Azzure, I received an email from customer support stating that it was for exploiting the economy on my bnet account. Then I received an email two days later from (possibly) blizzard that did not also go to my bnet account.

If it's true that I was banned for commercial gain, why isn't diablo3markets banned as well? Why not incgamers, wowwiki, mmo-champion, diablofans, etc? They all have ads and make money from the game.

It all sounds a little fishy to me, and I'm questioning if that second email really was from blizzard or not. Even I know how to write a little php script to make someone think an email was from someone else.

[Pheal]

Either way, selling a shady pdf is against their TOS and diablo3markets, incgamers, wowwiki, mmo-champion, diablofans doesn't do that, all revenue is generated through advertising as a fansite of diablo 3. That's why you got banned. You didn't exploit the game, you exploited the service, which is explained in the TOS. It didn't show in your bnet account because the d3 beta is a privilege and not a right and they won't have to warn you if they revoke that privilege. You would get something in a paid game if you'd get banned.