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    Amazon spears review

    Hi guys. I'm currently playing a spearazon, and she's level 63. I couldn't find a decent spearazon guide, so let me share some opinions about spear weapons for the amazon. Some of them I have use, some planning to use..

    Bloodthief brandistock
    pros- great twinking weapon. fast, LL, OW, +life, got through most of normal with this
    cons- not an endgame weapon

    The Impaler war spear
    pros- ITD, decent damage, low level reqs
    cons- not an endgame weapon

    Soulfest Tine war fork
    pros- fast, dual leech, decent damage
    cons- not an endgame weapon

    Lycander's flank ceremonial pike
    pros- +skills, fast, leech, stat boost, only clvl 42 reqd. this is what I am using currently
    cons- Not enough dmg for endgame ( only 162 ED on mine ), needs upping
    Suited to lightning skill based builds ( fend as LI backup )

    E hone Sundan yari
    pros- very damaging, hefty 45 cb and three sockets for full customization.
    cons- not easy to find one, needs upping, no +skills
    Suited to fend based builds ( charge strike as PI backup )

    Stoneraven matriarchial spear
    pros- great defensive bonuses ( +defense and resists ), +skills, decent damage
    cons- varies on so many parameters it can be impossible to find a perfect one

    Arioc's needle
    pros- +skills, fast, 50% deadly strike
    cons- Ridiculous clvl req ( 81? wtf ) , low damage, low range

    Steel pillar
    pros- indestructible, high damage, CB
    cons- slow, no skills

    E BOTD
    pros- almost every mod you could want on a spear
    cons- very expensive ( atleast for single player )

    My top rated
    Lightning build ( fend as backup for LI ): Arioc's needle, Stoneraven, Lycander's flank
    Physical build ( CS as backup for PI ): EBotd, EHoneSundan (upped ), Stoneraven

    Some ballpark figures for dmg ( what I have and some researched )

    Arioc's Needle: 100-342
    Lycander's flank ( non upped ): 136-314
    Stoneraven: 220-340
    Steel pillar: 110-560
    E upped hone sundan: 100-737 ( not counting sockets )
    E BOTD war pike: 237-1291
    E BOTD ghost spear: 132-1139

    ghost spear hits WW breakpoint , which is an important consideration if you have only 1 Zod to use
    ( ie single player )

    Thanks for looking, any comments?



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    Re: Amazon spears review

    For a lightning build, how does Ariocs compare to Tstroke/Spirit?

    I know its a spearazon, but if a jav+shield is better...



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    Re: Amazon spears review

    Funny you mention that, because I have the exact same setup on my other amazon ( tstroke+spirit)
    Tstroke+spirit is better, no questions asked, and infact her whole setup is geared towards +skills. The disadvantage is that you can't use fend ( well you can, but it isn't effective ), but have to go with poison skills.



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    Re: Amazon spears review

    Yea but doesn't fend suck?



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    Re: Amazon spears review

    No, not really when you get used to it.
    The key is to use decoy and slow missiles properly. And rely on lifeleech.

    There are certain advantages to using spears over bow javelin combos. Such as, you can have a CtA switch ( call to arms ).
    Also, fend is arguably better at dealing with LIs than plague javelin ( if you were going pure javelin ), specially the immune problems.

    P.S. don't use D/A/E/valk



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    Re: Amazon spears review

    D/A/E are not the only problems which causes the whiffing of Fend. Hit recovery causes this also. I vote for Jab for LIs.




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    Re: Amazon spears review

    Hit recovery stops the fend strikes altogether, which is different from whiffing.
    Anyway the point was what are the good spears for an amazon, not whether one should use spear amazon or not.
    Jab is terrible btw ( damage wise ).



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    Re: Amazon spears review

    Hone Sundan is arguably one of the best pokey sticks when up'd. Also if you have the zod rune to waste (i.e. not single player) you can consider making ebotd in a zon specific weapon such as the matriarchal spear or pike if you want additional skills to go with its massive damage.



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    Re: Amazon spears review

    Matriarchial spear and pike both have less damage than Ghost spear/War pike, I don't know if +3 to fend would make up for it.



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    Re: Amazon spears review

    It would add an additional 30% off weapon ed, which is probably worse off then in that case, sorry I did not check the damage comparison before posting.



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