Fury/Rabies Druid armor

**zaphodbrx** · 27-01-2012, 07:40

Originally Posted by omgwtfbbqpwned

Go Bramble. :P

I don't understand why people keep saying this, the effect is negligible.
Trang oul's gloves make rabies dmg go from 13k to 14k, big whoop. And a low roll bramble is the same as trangs.
I substituted dracul's instead of trangs on my pvm druid, it is much better.

Maybe if the reason is to get return damage through thorns aura and spirit of barbs. Don't know how viable that is.

**Hartside** · 27-01-2012, 11:04

Originally Posted by zaphodbrx

I don't understand why people keep saying this, the effect is negligible.
Trang oul's gloves make rabies dmg go from 13k to 14k, big whoop. And a low roll bramble is the same as trangs.
I substituted dracul's instead of trangs on my pvm druid, it is much better.

Maybe if the reason is to get return damage through thorns aura and spirit of barbs. Don't know how viable that is.

Strange bramble and trangs i get 68k max rabies

**zaphodbrx** · 27-01-2012, 12:52

What level is your rabies at?

Mine is at 31 I think ( plague bearer, jalal, spirit ), and the synergy is maxed ofc.
Ofc I could bump it to a little higher by using +2 armor, ammy etc. but 68k sounds just ridiculous.

What is the damage when you take off bramble and trangs?

**Pyrotechnician** · 27-01-2012, 13:37

I can't tell you how bramble works on a rabies druid but I do have a poison Jav zon so I can give you those comparisons. I have on my javazon a bramble with 44% poison damage. My plage javelin is level 38 (fully synergized). With the armor I do 68,874 to 69,246. With no armor I do 48,534 to 48,797. Of course that doesn't take into account I would sub it out with probably a COH for the +2 skills so that would make up some of the difference. I don't use trangs because I prefer my rare Jav gloves over them and the damage difference between the two of them is marginal at best. By playing around with some of the items I estimate about 1 skill level to be about 5-6k damage difference give or take at high levels and fully synergized with bramble. Obviuosly this doesn't help with damage for a rabies druid but it gives some insight. I won't know how my rabies druid runs until I get him fully geared. I think the general theory is though if you have a higher level skill the effects of bramble and trangs damage will become more apparent because the base its multiplied against is much higher.

**zaphodbrx** · 27-01-2012, 14:02

Plague javelin receives 10% synergy bonus.
So at 20 skillpoints in synergy, the difference between bramble and none is: +200% and +200+44%
which is pretty substantial.

Rabies gets 18% synergy bonus
Therefore the difference between trangs and non trangs is +360% and +385%

this explains the difference in our observations.

**scrcrw** · 27-01-2012, 15:19

You're just plain wrong, zaphod. The damage from Bramble and Trang Gloves is not added to the synergy bonuses. Trang Gloves + a perfect Bramble will increase your damage by the full 75%. That's the difference between synergy bonuses and Sorc masteries.
Read up before you start calling people wrong...

**zaphodbrx** · 27-01-2012, 15:50

If it increases like that, then trangs should improve my poison damage from 13k to ~16k or so ( 25% )
But it doesn't. It only increases by 1k ish

Edit: Unless the character screen is lying.

**scrcrw** · 27-01-2012, 15:57

Nope, the char screen should show the full damage. I guess your game is broken or you're doing something wrong.

**zaphodbrx** · 27-01-2012, 16:01

I suppose you are right, this isnt the first time I've found my character screen telling lies.

**Pyrotechnician** · 27-01-2012, 16:12

I'm not sure how equiping and unequiping gloves can be done wrong scrcrw....I know that the character screen lies, but as I stated in my previous post in the case of my jav zon the difference between using trang gloves vs +2 jav skill gloves was somewhere around a couple hundred damage instead of the impressive numbers you would expect.