Frenzy barb weapons (vanilla)

**ch1zra** · 19-12-2011, 13:50

O hai

I have the everlasting question : what guns to use on my barbie ?

Anyway, I have searched through my stashes for quite a while, and I still have no idea how to equip him to slay effectively.
One major obstacle is that I am playing Vanilla, thus all the juicy stuff like griefs, deaths, oaths, fortitudes etc are excluded.

Also, my current rune wealth is following:

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I COULD make a Beast in zerker, but I prefer to make an Enigma, since I still don't own any, and I think that Enigma would help me a lot more in future item/rune hunting than Beast (no matter how juicy it may be).

Anyway, as for high end uniques :

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these babies are just thrown here straight out from flavie elite uniques, I know a lot of them aren't really frenzy weapons.

but anyway, I am currently contemplating this setup:
2x rune masters.
1st 4 OS with 3x Shael, 2x ED/min/max dmg whatever
2nd 5 OS with 4x Eth (to achieve -100% target def)
this would provide me with other gear (highlords, nos coil and fervored Areats / GladBane) 5.5 fpa frenzy.

so, is this crap or ?

I'd like to hear your ideas.

thanx in advance

**hubb** · 19-12-2011, 15:33

Some question first

Is the Jah in the your list available for a weap or is that also going towards your Enigma? Would you be able to trade for something like Death Cleaver or do you play self-found? What other gear are you planning to use and how important is CB (i.e. killing bosses fast) to you?

Also, as explained here, IAS on your 2nd weapon does count so stacking Shaels on your main hand and none on the off-hand isn't a great idea. The -def also only works for the weapon is it on.

**ch1zra** · 19-12-2011, 16:19

1. Jah is enigma material (then enigma will go to whirlie, that will produce many more Jahs in Trav :P).
2. I play self found only, so trading is off.
3. as for other gear I will go :
Head: Arreats (still no socket, and I have no idea what to socket it with (also, self found excludes 40/15 *drool* stuff))
Body: Enigma (atm Gladiators Bane)
Belt: String of Ears (or verdungos, or Nosferatu for additional IAS)
Gloves: Dracul's (can't beat that Life Tap!)
Amulet: Highlords (IAS/CS, maybe I go Atma if I decide that I am good without the LT)
Rings: 2x Carrion (mega LL,damage to mana, ministuns..)
Boots: Goblins (Maybe I switch to Gores, but I prefer 25 CB instead of 15. Also atm this is only source of CB (which triggers quite often due to fast nature of frenzy))

so this leaves me with my hands empty...

as for link you provided, I will read into it for sure. ALso, the usage of Eth runes on offhand weapon is to ensure that at least every second hit finds it's target, at least that's what my current logic is dancing over.

Over all, I am aware that untill I scrap enough runes for Beast/BotD/Enigma/whatever, I will perform "poorly" compared to others, because I am not using RWM.
But hey, once I get that stuff, I will own like mad

**hubb** · 19-12-2011, 21:08

I ran some numbers and it seems like an upped Butcher's Pupil is your best bet; the 30-50 damage on it is like another 80% ED and the 33% DS doesn't hurt either. If you're very keen on Arreat's and Drac's then my vote goes to upped Butcher's Pupil (with ED jwl or Eth) and a Kingslayer BA. There's enough CB on Kingslayer so you can wear Gores and with those weaps you'll reach 5.5 fpa with Highlord's and an IAS jewel in your helm.

**ch1zra** · 19-12-2011, 23:42

Tried it, and it works pretty fine for now. It may be decent pair of guns untill some other goodies come along

thanx for the input mate, I appreaciate it.

Kingslayer:

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Any other input is welcome too, I am willing to experiment with this guy for a while

**taxcut** · 31-12-2011, 09:33

Some of my fav (low cost) Freny barb weps... Edit, just noticed the no RWM
Crescent moon, nice for the ITD and static procs constantly...
Butcher's, Already mentioned by Hubb
Lacerator, nice IAS and amps alot, but the monster flee can be a hassle at times...
Crainte Vomir, High IAS, Slows target 35%, FWR, - 70 monster defense per hit, 10% damage reduction

**omgwtfbbqpwned** · 01-01-2012, 01:15

+1 Butcher's Pupil. Up when you need to. Comes with indestructibility too. <3

**Krupa** · 03-01-2012, 04:01

just throwin in a few weapons:

doombringer (played with one for a long time as second weapon)
heavens light
the redeemer
runemaster
baranars star

**Dodgydave** · 06-01-2012, 07:43

I used a cresent moon/doombringer combo effectively enough. Azurewrath is always nice as well with the sanctuary aura to negate any undead hassles.

**Orion** · 13-01-2012, 22:53

I haven't made a Barb in a long time. Can't decide on Frenzy or Berserker. Thinkin Frenzy because I have Arreat, IK Glove Belt and Treks ATM - can improve on that with 12DR 38life Dungo in stash.
Level 62 in hell wearing Shaft with Angelics/Raven.
Weps - Eth Death Colossus and 36/379 grief PB.
have 2 WC and 2 Bcombat with sucky 2nd mods.

Is frenzy better than bersker? Frenzy appears more effective for meph, diablo and baal runnnin. Double swingin appears to be fast and deadly.

I need to straighten this out before respec - got nm and hell left.

BTW - gonna have a switchup of Beast/Spirti for crazy Bear times - just gotta have fun with the switch lol.

Useast NL
For Frenzy what wep/equip loadout is best ?
Stuck atm with leveling and figure out build tomorrow :P
For a frenzy - what skill layout? ?

Kinda staying inside and leveling tonight - Rode VTX1800 in 35 degree weather all day - so crazy! is the word of the day lol!!!!!!!!!!