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So I'm working on my pvp strict melee fury druid, and he's going really well. I know that in perfect circumstances a max damage/attack rating/life grand charm (or three small charms) is better than a shapeshifting/life grand charm. But what about imperfect circumstances? Basically I want to know how much damage and attack rating I have to have, either with three small charms or one grand charm, to make it better than a shapeshifting charm. Likewise with life, I suppose, though that only applies to small charms.
Even perfect there's a difference in the charm set. Shapers give more life while the scs give more damage. I forgot which one gives more AR though I think it's the scs. I'm to fried from finals to number crunch the exact point in which one charm overtakes another so I'll let someone else do that.
Actually, I did run the numbers at one point and an inventory full of 20 lifers does add more life than an inventory full of 45 life ss gcs. That extra 15 life adds up.
Edit: So it turns out I would, in fact, have more life with the ss gcs. But only 33 more life as compared to 37x 20 lifers.
Last edited by wooginator; 15-12-2011 at 17:16.
Yeah I did the same thing initially and the 5% extra life from each Lycan increase balances it out. Do you have the numbers on equivalent damage and AR? I want to say SS gave more AR but that was ages ago and my memory's fuzzy.
The way juds explained this fanged knives and phase blades 3/20/20 everything else skillers hope this helps
Okay so I ran some numbers and if I swap out all my ss gcs for max/ar gcs (assuming they have 75 ar) I end up with 3k more attack rating using my low attack rating setup (highlords/ravens) but only about 200 more using my high attack rating setup (angelics). Basically, the more flat +ar I have, the more effective my ss gcs will be. When you get up to around 3500+ flat ar ss gcs are more effective than +ar gcs would be.
Edit: Also, it looks like even with perfect max/ar gcs and scs for a total of +130 max damage it only increases my average damage by about 200 and my max by about 700. Not worth it at all.
Last edited by wooginator; 16-12-2011 at 18:08.
So SS Lifers are more bang for the buck it seems. Good to know.
But not by as much as you might think, oddly enough. In fact the lower your flat attack rating the better off you are with attack rating charms instead of ss ones. (for instance, when I had something like 18 or 1900 base attack rating and I substituted in attack rating charms with 75 attack rating on them for my ss gcs, my final attack rating increased by 4-5k.) But on the whole I would say, from my investigation, the extra cost of high-end melee charms does not seem worth it.
The strongest fury vs fury wolf uses ss gcs thats on east acc name sambo5 bi-furous is extremely good and uses scs imo f v f shifters are better vs palas and barbs scs win i shouldnt give you any advice ( just challenged you in a tourney if your on east ) see ya soon awroooo
Quick follow-up question, while I've got you all here: My druid is currently speced both in strength and in max blockiness to my ebotdz. Most of the time this is useful and gives me a bunch of extra life (120 before werewolf, oak sage and bo). But it also means I can't use other weapons. Is it worth it to respec so that I could use, say, gris caddy or (god willing) a rare 4-frame fanged knife or eth pb?
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