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    So Ursa Major....

    Can it hit 2fpa or only 3fpa?

    If 3fpa, what's the highest damage weapon?




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    Re: So Ursa Major....

    You need 100 IAS on a Runic Talon to hit 3 fpa, so there's really only one weapon option

    A Fury RT actually gets 4 fpa (with 20 off-weapon IAS), maybe that's something to look into.



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    Re: So Ursa Major....

    And that would be artisans runic talons of quickness (shael shael shael)?




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    Re: So Ursa Major....

    Correctomundo.




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    Re: So Ursa Major....

    What's the purpose of having such a fast attack?




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    Re: So Ursa Major....

    Quote Originally Posted by omgwtfbbqpwned View Post
    What's the purpose of having such a fast attack?
    I think for the sake of having a 2 frame attack

    Plus it makes ctc gear and crushing blow devastating.



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    Re: So Ursa Major....

    I don't think you'll be able to outdps 'Grief' though, even if it hits at 5-6fpa.




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    Re: So Ursa Major....

    Of course not, you won't even get close. Like with any other bad build, making it is the purpose in itself



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    Re: So Ursa Major....

    Quote Originally Posted by reddude View Post
    I think for the sake of having a 2 frame attack

    Plus it makes ctc gear and crushing blow devastating.
    As mentioned earlier it's a 3 frame attack, which is ~27% faster than level 24 Dragon Talon's maximum attack rate (5 attacks in 19 frames, or average 3.8 frames per attack). However, this is wasted if chance-to-hit is neglected. The table below lists effective attack rate once chance-to-hit has been taken into account:

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    ATTACK         FRAMES  CHANCE-TO-HIT
                           95%    90%   85%   80%   75%   70%   65%   60%   55%   50%
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    Level 24 DT    3.8     4.00   4.22  4.47  4.75  5.07  5.43  5.85  6.33  6.91   7.6
    
    WB 100 IAS RT  3.0     3.16   3.33  3.53  3.75  4.00  4.29  4.62  5.00  5.45   6.0
    WB Fury RT     4.0     4.21   4.44  4.71  5.00  5.33  5.71  6.15  6.67  7.27   8.0
    WB Grief PB    5.0     5.26   5.56  5.88  6.25  6.67  7.14  7.69  8.33  9.09  10.0
    Level 24 Dragon Talon applies +825% Attack Rating (with +166% Damage), while level 24 Claw Mastery applies +260% AR (with +127% Damage and 22% chance of mastery critical strike). Both Fury and Grief have -25% Target Defence and Ignore Target's Defence, so at level >87 chance-to-hit normal and minion monsters will always be 95%.

    For example, 3 frame attack with just 60% chance-to-hit effectively becomes 5 frames, equivalent to Fury's 4 frame attack rate with 80% chance-to-hit: frequency of Crushing Blow, Chance to Cast and non-physical damage isn't increased, while physical weapon damage is significantly less. Chance-to-hit has to be 75% or higher before effective attack rate is guaranteed to be equal to or higher than all other options listed above.

    It's also wasted even when the frequency of non-physical damage and effects is increased, if these do not compensate for the lack of physical weapon damage.



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    Re: So Ursa Major....

    40 ias runic eth repairs fools 29x ed is dream weapon for assa bear imo




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