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    Re: kiicking *** in high heels?

    Quote Originally Posted by popenfresh View Post
    People already brought up the sin concept art.

    The point is; the sin never wore high heels in game because the designers must've been smart enough to realise it could never work.
    Did you play the game with a microscope, analyzing everybody's heels?



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    Re: kiicking *** in high heels?

    Quote Originally Posted by Risingred View Post
    Did you play the game with a microscope, analyzing everybody's heels?
    This made me lol.

    p.s. why is the rofl acronym misspelled "rolf" rofl???




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    Re: kiicking *** in high heels?

    Quote Originally Posted by popenfresh View Post
    To clarify myself: I DO like Blizz's approach on the D3 heroes, I just think it's unfortunate that the "sexy philosophy" has crept in. I just hope it stays with the DH's high heels and doesn't contaminate more of the game's design.
    That's exactly what's going to happen. This focus is a one-time-deal.



    That said, sexy has always been there. It hasn't been the focal point of a PC yet (well, the zon, but yeah).


    Andy was naked with nipple rings. Kinky.

    The Mistress of Pain is sexy above the waist in a high class, sophisticated way. She does stop once the killing starts though. =/


    All of the corrupt rogues joined the braless 60's.




    More on that note, heels have been there. Rising just posted the pic for clarity. Granted, it's a concept art. Well, that's precisely what the DH's are.

    D3 shows them in game. You need to use a magnifying lens on a zoomed in image just to see them.

    In-game, especially if you do any action at all, you will not see them.

    It then boils down to the concept of the char, and it's far from being anything new.



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    Re: kiicking *** in high heels?

    Hi guys, what goin on in this thread?
    http://img841.imageshack.us/f/wartravs.png/
    No but seriously some guys have completely blown this out of proportions, high heels = sexism? come on atleast they don't have metal bikinis for armor like every other rpg...

    But I agree that it doesn't make any sense to go to battle in high heels when theres tons of boots designed for combat in the universe. Not that I care about it myself, never noticed the high heels in the gameplay video at all, but then maybe I'm just blind then. But still, exaggerations and getting yourselves worked up over nothing.



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    Re: kiicking *** in high heels?

    Quote Originally Posted by Risingred View Post
    Did you play the game with a microscope, analyzing everybody's heels?
    You don't need a microscope to see what your character is and isn't wearing, so your remark is nothing more than an attack on a straw man. I've played a fair amount of D2 and while doing so spend hours staring at my character. If people spend so much time trying to figure out the perfect build it's not so strange that some people also pay attention on how the graphics and character designs look.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sass View Post
    That's exactly what's going to happen. This focus is a one-time-deal.



    That said, sexy has always been there. It hasn't been the focal point of a PC yet (well, the zon, but yeah).


    Andy was naked with nipple rings. Kinky.

    The Mistress of Pain is sexy above the waist in a high class, sophisticated way. She does stop once the killing starts though. =/


    All of the corrupt rogues joined the braless 60's.




    More on that note, heels have been there. Rising just posted the pic for clarity. Granted, it's a concept art. Well, that's precisely what the DH's are.

    D3 shows them in game. You need to use a magnifying lens on a zoomed in image just to see them.

    In-game, especially if you do any action at all, you will not see them.

    It then boils down to the concept of the char, and it's far from being anything new.
    D2 definitely had it share of "sexiness" too, I mean just look at the amazon, so yeah D3 most certainly isn't worse than D2.

    With demons it's different IMO. Maybe I'm wrong here but depicting a giant naked female demon just isn't quite the same, so I don't think Andariel really counts as a wrong role model lol. As for the Mistress of Pain, her upper body has much more of a Victorian theme going(which isn't usually associated with sexiness, unless you get real kinky ofc ^^).

    I know this thread has gotten way out of proportion when you look at the actual issue at had here. I really do like most of the designer's decisions but the heels are just a detail that bugs me. I'm definitely not bashing on the art style or game design here(well maybe I am in the case of the goofy high tier armours but that's a different discussion altogether).



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    Re: kiicking *** in high heels?

    You don't need a microscope to see what your character is and isn't wearing, so your remark is nothing more than an attack on a straw man. I've played a fair amount of D2 and while doing so spend hours staring at my character. If people spend so much time trying to figure out the perfect build it's not so strange that some people also pay attention on how the graphics and character designs look.
    You do, however, need one to see the DH's heels. An exact magnifying lens isn't necessary, but any zoom is the basic meaning there.


    At the camera's angle, it's impossible to see them. Many of the floor designs / colors make her whole foot impossible to see.




    Still, I can appreciate seeing a char for the heck of seeing a char. With my sins, armor made no defense difference that was practical. 600 defense or 650, who cares when the opponent has 10K AR?

    So, it was all about style. I liked Gothic Plates because of the red pants (like the char selection).


    If heels are changeable or customizable, it can be worth noting. If not, it's just some trivial thing with no real impact, if it can even be noticed.





    With demons it's different IMO. Maybe I'm wrong here but depicting a giant naked female demon just isn't quite the same, so I don't think Andariel really counts as a wrong role model lol. As for the Mistress of Pain, her upper body has much more of a Victorian theme going(which isn't usually associated with sexiness, unless you get real kinky ofc ^^).
    Well, like I said, a more sophisticated approach. They weren't sexy in that they showed some leg and had some booty popping, but had a certain classiness that has a lady-like appeal all its own.


    It's also technically sexist :P




    I know this thread has gotten way out of proportion when you look at the actual issue at had here. I really do like most of the designer's decisions but the heels are just a detail that bug me. I'm definitely not bashing on the art style or game design here(well maybe I am in the case of the goofy high tier armours but that's a different discussion altogether).
    Just being bugged by them is fine. Not everyone will have the same tastes. It's other people who bother me when things get blown out of proportion.

    You yourself haven't, but too many others. They make more of a fuss than the issue discussed :S



    Personally, it's so trivial that I initially didn't notice in gameplay, but only did in some concept designs. Never once did it register as derogatory sexist or in any way out of place.

    I don't think it's normal to run in heels and kill demons while summersaulting, but I'm also not bugged if I see it in a video game.



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    Re: kiicking *** in high heels?

    WARNING:The following post is intentionally "not-fully-serious" and as thus is purposely exaggerated, please do take that into account...

    This assassin image is not modified in any way (well, it is, I added some light because I'm too blind to see anything like it was, it seems my screenshot was at an wrong moment)
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    Check this, people:



    So yeah... thoughts?

    BTW, I can't really tell too much the difference between platforms shoes or heels, so spare me that one...

    Reminds me a bit of this kind of shoe: http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets..._shoe_8-23.jpg


    Last edited by Leugi; 06-11-2010 at 03:32.

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    Re: kiicking *** in high heels? cool..

    I think this thread should become the official 'OT' thread for the Demon Hunter forum.

    warning, the video has naughty words...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWwIWGW44tU




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    Re: kiicking *** in high heels?

    Quote Originally Posted by Contingent View Post
    Great, except that this is a discussion regarding the Demon Hunter and not the Barbarian, Monk, Wizard, and Witch Doctor. Thank you for answering my hyperbolic question though.

    Of course it's possible for game developers to create female video characters that are not overtly sexy but strong; however, it doesn't happen frequently enough. Most of the time, female video game characters are outfitted with skimpy clothing and given big breasts--and this somehow makes them strong enough to stand up to their male equivalents that are 220 lbs of pure muscle and wearing practical armor (not metal lingerie).



    And that's one too many as far as I'm concerned, especially when you consider how common this kind of thing is in all video games.



    I agree that the Amazon was ridiculous aesthetically.



    You're using the wrong definition of strong. I don't mean strong in the same sense as a power lifer is strong. I mean strong in the sense of being capable of defending yourself and other people. And since when does wearing high heels coincide with being agile?



    Inner strength alone cannot kill demons. She may be strong internally, but she's running around in a dominatrix outfit and high heels. When I look at the female Demon Hunter, I don't think, "Oooh, how impressive and strong!" I think... I wonder how good she'd be in bed if she were real? But this is exactly my point. The focus of video game developers isn't creating genuinely interesting and strong female characters. Their focus is creating sexy female characters that will attract boys and men (the primary audience for video games).



    She'd be more agile without them, not to mention taken more seriously.



    Why are you being presumptuous? I've always complained about this type of thing.



    To iterate, Blizzard has succeeded in making a sexy female character with the Demon Hunter, but they've failed in making a character that I can take seriously. Although I don't think the latter was ever Blizzard's goal
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    I just wonder what is the need of creating lingerie female characters in games. These games are mostly played by kids and it adversely affect their mindset. It should be more meaningful
    Last edited by ErnestoHunter; 07-05-2013 at 05:03.

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