WW barb vs WW sin

**Sass** · 10-08-2010, 10:53

Krim, you seem to know a lot more than Gurnison, but your explanation isn't why I've done it.

why does sass then not get hit when not being able to be outside of range when both are whirlwinding and not assuming the barbarian has no brains and therefore weren't whirlwinding in the first place?

Triple negative is confusing at first, but it seems like the barb isn't WWing and I'm hitting?

The out maneuvering I've been describing is a delayed, angled WW into the barb as he is whirling. You will hit, he will not. There is a dangerous part, such as when you go farther and he is starting a new hit check. The scenario is now him hitting and you don't. Try not to stick around to be hit.

Block does give me some leniency, but not enough to take on a barb. Only by mastering what I described above did I have a chance. Well...a really bad barb once tried to zerk me and one WW pass hit him every time. ><

The issue of shields is a big one. Ultimately, it's only delayed things. The two of us deal even less damage (me a rough 3/4 due to block factor, and him 1/2 due to a lack of a weapon). As long as I don't forget how to get the "unanswered hits" as many call them, I'd still win.

BTW: Mo has developed a kick / bow solution. This is much safer than WWing the barb, but was designed fitting his play style. I took what I learned in Ghost vs Ghost duels, used them on a barb and *surprise* what made me hit them also made me hit a barb. This method is much more dangerous, not nearly as successful, but very fun and indeed works. I can't claim to PK all barbs with ease (not even wiz can be that good), but I have already PK'd many to their surprise.

**SeCKSEgai** · 10-08-2010, 12:06

Originally Posted by KrimLjubljana

gurnison is correct. I say this with hesitation. Not because I doubt him, but because I know any discussion on the internet on any matter that have no direct relevance to ones own life is rather futile. sass clearly can do well according to her own stories with a whirlwind assassin so when it works for her why should she doubt it. at most this will just result in even more irrelevant disagreement therefor don't be dissapointed if my participating in this topic is short even if i am not agree with other peoples replies.

on the other hand, if the bvc just put on a shield, max resist with tgods and some poison length reduced with maximum poison resist, sass duel would take so long that she'd probably just call bm and leave, not reporting the incident because the barb wasn't a standard thinking player, no this guy actually tried to make best of his options so he must have been bm.

No true gm'er would call someone bm for stacked resists and using a shield, that's the dumbest thing I've heard, and that's after reading gurnison's post for probably over a month, so that is saying a bit much.

That whole bit with Sass being "selective" about which duels to remember and which ones to conveniently to forget is more applicable to folks with gurnison's mindset. BMer's who take any step to win (because we all know winning is everything =P) are of course going to forget their losses conveniently.

**IMCL85** · 11-08-2010, 01:51

whats the point aguing over bva vs sin? There just no way any type of sin can do **** vs godly bm barb, yea mind blast for the win. What eva man just get back to the topic lol. And stay away from bva vs sin, godly bm bva just simply can not be beaten by any sin end of the story.

**Sass** · 11-08-2010, 03:01

If only that were true.

**IMCL85** · 11-08-2010, 03:58

Originally Posted by Sass

If only that were true.

sadly its 100% true

**Sass** · 11-08-2010, 04:05

It only applies to those who lack experience with sins. Barbs are always tough, but never impossible.

**IMCL85** · 11-08-2010, 05:09

Originally Posted by Sass

It only applies to those who lack experience with sins. Barbs are always tough, but never impossible.

GM BvA is not impossible with sin, but BM 1 is definately impossible with a sin

. lifetap wand + massive sorb = nothing u can do but just mb like few life per mb hmmm that hurt

**Sass** · 11-08-2010, 05:17

You have more skills than MB. WW for instance.

Seriously, just kill him. LT won't work, you can't sorb WW and a shield is not going to make it impossible.

**IMCL85** · 11-08-2010, 13:31

Originally Posted by Sass

You have more skills than MB. WW for instance.

Seriously, just kill him. LT won't work, you can't sorb WW and a shield is not going to make it impossible.

going ww againest a godly bva? thats something like suicide on a sin. But I like ur style, even tho its 100% u will owned.