Things you hate because they're pointless and stupid -.-

**jmervyn** · 25-01-2012, 14:03

Back on thread - (L)users who have screaming fits when Windoze randomly loses a setting.

I've had four panicky phone complaints (and a couple of e-mail), one from a tech-loving Principal, about the piece of carp desktop reverting to older, more vanilla settings. If only <I> had the sort of job (life) where the color of the Windoze bar was the most important issue for me to deal with...

**Amra** · 26-01-2012, 05:52

Obama in the SOTU proved he is pointless and stupid.

**BobCox2** · 26-01-2012, 07:05

Originally Posted by Amra

Obama in the SOTU proved he is pointless and stupid.

About 38 million people watch Obama’s State of the Union

Hey He got a Share

Compare it to the GOP debates if you want to know how this comes out.

The Whole thing is...
Say it all together now, ...

PaS

(I expect to see this in urban dictionary's soon,

and will send them notice of my Copyright.)

Spoiler

**krischan** · 26-01-2012, 08:21

Originally Posted by Amra

Obama in the SOTU proved he is pointless and stupid.

From a rational point of view you might be correct, but from a pragmatic view he was only stupid if he loses the next election

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I think the stupidity of many voters is a more serious issue than the stupidity of politicians. The first produces the latter and you have to fight things at their core instead of wasting time and efforts on the symptoms.

**BobCox2** · 26-01-2012, 09:20

Originally Posted by krischan

From a rational point of view you might be correct, but from a pragmatic view he was only stupid if he loses the next election

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I think the stupidity of many voters is a more serious issue than the stupidity of politicians. The first produces the latter and you have to fight things at their core instead of wasting time and efforts on the symptoms.

Like Validation of the power those running already have by Voting?
Just saying
it you ask me to cut off a Arm or a Leg, I scream "False Alternatives" and don't vote.
It's PaS

**krischan** · 26-01-2012, 10:14

Doing nothing won't make things any better. They will cut off what others have decided for.

If things are as drastic as cutting off your arm or leg, then it would be time to start a revolution, to leave or to convince enough people to be able to offer other, acceptable choices. It's not enough just to complain about what some other idiots are doing wrong. *You* will have to *do* something, else nothing is going to change.

**BobCox2** · 27-01-2012, 08:23

Originally Posted by krischan

Doing nothing won't make things any better. They will cut off what others have decided for.

If things are as drastic as cutting off your arm or leg, then it would be time to start a revolution, to leave or to convince enough people to be able to offer other, acceptable choices. It's not enough just to complain about what some other idiots are doing wrong. *You* will have to *do* something, else nothing is going to change.

I'm not doing nothing, I am not voting for bad choices.

False Alternatives deserve being called out, and that is the only way to do it.

Free markets provide the solutions, now that corporations are people you just need to pick the ones U like.
I See more choices I care to vote on there.

**krischan** · 27-01-2012, 09:37

You don't understand your own example. In an election there is no "pick noone" option, either the one or the other is elected, even if just a single person is voting, so either your arm or your leg will be cut off. How does "the market" offer a solution to that?

I don't mean foolish things like opposing "the market", my point is that not voting is still worse than voting the least bad candidate - and doing the "market" thing isn't an alternative, but a different issue, except your point is that "the market" is going to replace elections. I think the better solution is to do something about the choice of alternatives in the election. Not voting isn't enough to achieve that.

The desire for not voting in a country which offers freedom and prosperity is often an excuse out of convenience, It's believed that "it" is the fault of somebody else or that somebody else will set things straight, just as it always seemed to have happened in the past. In fact, it hasn't all gone well all the time. It's just that we are the children of those (few or many) for whom things went well (or who let somebody else suffer the consequences) while they didn't go well for a lot of others... others who are all dead now.

This doesn't apply to you personally, Bobcox, but to people in general.

**BobCox2** · 28-01-2012, 07:48

Originally Posted by krischan

You don't understand your own example. In an election there is no "pick noone" option, either the one or the other is elected.

How much difference does it make to me which one won?
None - I prepare for both and don't validate the system - talk about it which seems to piss off the few that do vote anymore because they are the minority and they know it.

What if All the non-votes see a good choice, What it they invest buy one via a super-PAC and a few corporations?
Who voted with the dollars?

Free Markets

Pick a vote that matters, not one that fixed.

**krischan** · 28-01-2012, 13:15

As said, if all options are inaccaptable, produce your own electable option and convince enough other people to vote for it, otherwise you will have to live with the crap options which others present. If there are enough people who think the same about the crap options, it isn't entirely impossible.