vs ww barb

[yuqing]

If the bvc had a chance to ww the bone necro, there is almost nothing that can save him from dying even 50% dr, 75% block, and bone armor. Since bone necros have weak life I say bvc has good advantage over necros.

You severely underestimate block and dr. I have a hard time believing that any necro with 75 block and 50 dr will die with a single ww. In my experience, decent necromancers need to be caught around three times to be killed and that's not an easy feat vs skilled players.

[SicHalo]

since we are talking about w/s trappers here..
those kind of trappers are definitely an uphill battle for a bvc. 102fc, high fhr (there are different builds), max dr, maxblock, high frw (to walk wws) combined with heavy stun makes it really difficult to deal ANY damage in the first place.

i would say that in gm duels, those trappers will have a really good chance in killing bvcs, assuming the usual circumstances such as both having good gear and play their chars well.

this by far a good WS/trapper in gm stands about 70/30 in favour of trapper

a nec is a serious problem as well a good nec and hammers in most cases should beat a bvc (please don't tell me about widow technique either) A good hammerdin these days play offensive boxing style technique so pulling out a widow is near impossible since they are always on screen ontop of you and the idea arround this style of play to heard and control the movement of the barb sorta like a shepard hearding its sheep...

Oh and the obvious a bvb

[gurnison]

holy freeze flashing, cleg glove exile smiter.
fill inventory with torch,ani skillers with life the rest 20life + def scs.leave enough room for a cube

have a life tap on switch,

your combat tactics bo for duel, this works on all kinds of barbs.

life tap him, holy freeze flash, start tele smiting the barb doesn't matter if he is pro or not he will lose.

if he starts the stupid random wws expecting you to tele in it, stay clam and predict his wws tele where his wws end.

as soon as you start seeing him switch a bow spewing out pathetic ga's tele stomp him.

oh and use a phase blade don't use a berzerker axe because it sucks if barb uses doom, with phase blade and some ias you can counter doom, google for ias tables when in holy freeze state.

there is no chance for barb to win because of 100% chance to manual life tap, +cleg's+ holy freeze his ww will be slower than a blood moore zombie, every smite you do will get life back, plus your high defense, it also helps if you are higher level than him.

i use to have a zod bug smiter like this with eth enigma, there wasn't any barb that i can't kill.

if they start whinning about the way you duel, just tell them they are incompetant and d2 is a imbalance game.

[Sass]

That works well for some.

[NoisemakerArrow]

Max block and high DR bone necro is the hardest for my BVA to kill. V/T is also hard sometimes.

Smiter built specifically to fight barbs I imagine would be tough too.

I have a Hammerdin to handle the last 2 and a Ghost to counter the first one, though.

[SeCKSEgai]

You severely underestimate block and dr. I have a hard time believing that any necro with 75 block and 50 dr will die with a single ww. In my experience, decent necromancers need to be caught around three times to be killed and that's not an easy feat vs skilled players.

If a maxblock necro dies in a single ww, he either doesn't know what he's doing, or forgot to put up bone armor and got unlucky on the ww roll.

Necros are rough because they're a lot like sorcs, except ugly. (Oh, and the magic damage and better base blocking help too)

holy freeze flashing, cleg glove exile smiter.
fill inventory with torch,ani skillers with life the rest 20life + def scs.leave enough room for a cube

have a life tap on switch,

your combat tactics bo for duel, this works on all kinds of barbs.

life tap him, holy freeze flash, start tele smiting the barb doesn't matter if he is pro or not he will lose.

if he starts the stupid random wws expecting you to tele in it, stay clam and predict his wws tele where his wws end.

as soon as you start seeing him switch a bow spewing out pathetic ga's tele stomp him.

oh and use a phase blade don't use a berzerker axe because it sucks if barb uses doom, with phase blade and some ias you can counter doom, google for ias tables when in holy freeze state.

there is no chance for barb to win because of 100% chance to manual life tap, +cleg's+ holy freeze his ww will be slower than a blood moore zombie, every smite you do will get life back, plus your high defense, it also helps if you are higher level than him.

i use to have a zod bug smiter like this with eth enigma, there wasn't any barb that i can't kill.

if they start whinning about the way you duel, just tell them they are incompetant and d2 is a imbalance game.

Lol... the same guy complaining about pvp being gear based relies purely on BM methods.... how not surprising.

[gurnison]

If a maxblock necro dies in a single ww, he either doesn't know what he's doing, or forgot to put up bone armor and got unlucky on the ww roll.

Necros are rough because they're a lot like sorcs, except ugly. (Oh, and the magic damage and better base blocking help too)




Lol... the same guy complaining about pvp being gear based relies purely on BM methods.... how not surprising.

don't twist my words, i said pvp is 100% gear oriented, i never said anything about bm methods.

calling someone bm just proves how childish you are, its a video game, you either win or lose.

[Sass]

He didn't call you BM, he called your methods BM, which they are.



If it's in a pub, who cares. If you try it in a serious tournament, you'll most likely be DQ'd after losing (or just get a warning about that gear and DQ'd if you persist).

[gurnison]

He didn't call you BM, he called your methods BM, which they are.



If it's in a pub, who cares. If you try it in a serious tournament, you'll most likely be DQ'd after losing (or just get a warning about that gear and DQ'd if you persist).

so planning a method to win is bad manners? since when is winning = bad manners?

isn't the point to win in video games not to lose?

d2 have serious tournaments? please show me some live videos i loved to see that.

i gotta wonder those people disqualifying methods, have they ever played any competitive game at all? sounds like scrubdom to me, not to mention its self made up rules that fills with favoritism all over the place.

[Sass]

So where did I say winning = BM?





The whole point in GM and BM is to bring balance to an imbalanced game. Using exploits to win is as cheap as bringing a gun and shooting the baby you're stealing candy from. But, it's okay to do that since the goal was to steal apparently ;P