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    Tournament: Septavariate

    Septavariate Tournament

    Last Rule/Points Update: October 9th, 2009.

    Disclaimer
    • I do not claim ownership or originality about this tournament format. I am aware it has been done before and this could be considered a 'new round' or 'remake' with slightly different rules.


    Concept
    • This tournament consists of achieving the Guardian title with one character of each hero class, seven total.
    • The Guardian title is awarded for beating Hell difficulty in Hardcore (HC) mode. In order to create a HC char, you must have completed the game at least once, naturally with a non-HC char. You are allowed to use this first character in the tournament, until first death, at which point he or she must be rebuilt in HC (if you beat at least Normal mode). Characters from other tournaments are also allowed as long as no rules are broken.
    • Each character can receive bonuses in their final scores; as a general rule, characters who advance further will offer greater rewards in points.
    • The tournament winner will be the one who scores most points across his/her seven characters. There is no end-date set, it is a long term tournament.
    • Dead characters or even Guardian characters can be replaced by new characters of the same class.


    Rules
    • Create a team of 7 Hardcore characters, one of each class (one non-HC character is allowed per team, until first death - usually a Hardcore mode 'enabler');
    • Characters coming from another tournament are allowed as long as they didn't break any rules of this tournament;
    • Diablo II LoD v1.12b;
    • RWM and RRM allowed;
    • Solo, Single Player only;
    • Untwinked; ATMA and GoMule are allowed as extended stash utility, to deposit and take back items with the same character; but trading between characters is severely restricted (see next rule);
    • Each character is allowed to receive 1 item in each difficulty (3 total) from other members of your team, as long as that item wasn't used before, and it cannot be passed over again. Runewords or items with used sockets cannot be transfered (they violate 1 item rule). Please declare which items were passed over once your character reaches Guardian or Deeds;
    • Any "/players x" setting allowed, no full clears needed, repeating areas is fine;
    • Considering this is very difficult to verify, you are allowed to "Esc/Save and Exit" to avoid death if you want to.
    • Report your progress (carefully) updating the tables found at the latest posts; you can view the code by quoting the post; copying to the notepad for editing makes things easier. Please be careful to not mess up the data posted by other participants.
    • Optional: Give your team a cool name.
    • Optional: Provide us nice reads and screenshots of your progress, drops... or even deeds!


    Base Points
    • Normal Difficulty (total 467 points):
    • +80 per Act completed (400 total);
    • +1 per Quest completed (27 total);
    • +1 per Waypoint activated (39 total);
    • +1 for completing the Secret Cow Level.
    • Nightmare Difficulty (total 734 points):
    • +120 per Act completed (600 total);
    • +2 per Quest completed (54 total);
    • +2 per Waypoint activated (78 total);
    • +2 for completing the Secret Cow Level.
    • Hell Difficulty (total 1,201 points):
    • +200 per Act completed (1,000 total);
    • +3 per Quest completed (81 total);
    • +3 per Waypoint activated (117 total);
    • +3 for completing the Secret Cow Level.


    Bonus Points
    • +0.5 per unused Stat Point (maximum +250.5);
    • +2 per unused Skill Point (maximum +220);
    • +1 per character Level (maximum +99).


    That's about it. Feel free to sign up, and suggest changes and different point bonuses, or point out something important I overlooked (and help me make a better table please).

    Progress Report Tables
    • To make a progress report, post two tables: the first only with info about your characters' data, and the second with the overall participants data.


    Team Details Table (individual - post your team only)

    Code:
    Team Leader   Class Character  Build           Lv   Location Points Bonus
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    Hector        Ama   Juno       Javelin          1   A1N      0           
                  Asn                               0   N/A      0          
                  Bar                               0   N/A      0               
                  Dru                               0   N/A      0                
                  Nec                               0   N/A      0                
                  Pal                               0   N/A      0                
                  Sor                               0   N/A      0                
    ===============================================================================
    Team Ladder Table (overall - add all teams info)

    Code:
    Rank  Team Leader     Team Name                Guardians      Total Points
    ==============================================================================
    1     Hector          N/A                      0/7            0
    ==============================================================================


    Last edited by Hector; 10-10-2009 at 18:07.

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    Re: Tournament: Septavariate

    Awesome, I was hoping there was one of these would still be active, but you saved me some time and posted a new one.

    Personally I've never gotten a character to Mat/Pat before, let alone Guardian, so this should be some good motivation to finally beat hell. Anyway I'll be joining in when my study year is over in a couple of weeks so I'll start posting stuff then.

    Also for the table, would it make sense to have 2, one for whatever char the person is currently using and one for that person's total points? Just a thought.



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    Re: Tournament: Septavariate

    Since I've just started playing again I'm considering joining up on this one. But for now I want to play single-pass and untwinked so I have a question regarding one of the rules:

    Quote Originally Posted by Hector View Post
    [*]Untwinked (muling off items with ATMA/GoMule is allowed if you get full, taking items from a stash is not allowed);
    Are we allowed to use it as an extended stash or no? If I mule something of one of my chars, may I mule it back on as long as it is the same char or no?




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    Re: Tournament: Septavariate

    Quote Originally Posted by Sp3c View Post
    Are we allowed to use it as an extended stash or no? If I mule something of one of my chars, may I mule it back on as long as it is the same char or no?
    Yes that's perfectly fine and the practical thing to do, I'm updating the rules to include extended stash, thanks. There is no intention to be boring or too strict with the rules - what I want to discourage is twinking - passing down of good items that nearly completely take out of the challenge of some classes. I.e. Insight, sorc passing down exceptional unique weapons to ama/asn/dru/bar/pal, etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Woof View Post
    Also for the table, would it make sense to have 2, one for whatever char the person is currently using and one for that person's total points? Just a thought.
    Good luck and welcome Woof.

    Good idea, I have created a new table so we have two; one will include all characters' individual info and the other will be the general score/rank.

    Further suggestions/improvements to the table are welcome.




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    Re: Tournament: Septavariate

    Ok, cool

    Ill start my HC adventures after the weekend then!




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    Re: Tournament: Septavariate

    I recently started playing yet again (around three weeks ago), but I don't have much time to play. I'm hoping to do this in the long-term though, as I'm sure most people are. Unfortunately, as I was just starting again, my first and only character is SC (as necessary). I meant to stop once I beat normal and make a new character, but she's been so fun that I've continued.

    She's currently in mid-nightmare, and hasn't yet died, as I'm treating her as if she was HC. Is there any chance I could "pretend" she is? I know it's silly, but I'm really enjoying her, and I'd rather not restart when it took me three weeks to get to the palace in act 2 NM. She even found my first ever SOJ (around the tenth NM Andarial run), though it's been placed in her extended stash. (I've been playing since May 2001, so finally finding an SOJ was awesome, even if I'm not using it).

    All of my other characters would be HC, and I promise that if she dies, I'll end her there. I generally play HC regardless, so I have no interest in continuing a SC character that has died. I suppose it's similar to save+exit. I personally won't, but I know there's no way to prove it. Besides, people can always save/back up their HC characters anyways if they really want to cheat.

    I guess using a SC character makes it not a "Guardian" as the title is different, but I'm hoping this would be acceptable. Regardless, I want to try for this. I'd just like to be able to post in the thread with my characters, even though one will technically be SC, though will be treated as if HC.

    Thanks for the thread, and I hope that's acceptable! If not, I guess I'll consider remaking her, but probably not...




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    Re: Tournament: Septavariate

    @srs0: IMHO you should be able to use that char as other tourney allow SC for first death, but it's Hector's call. Btw. do you know that you can make HC characters in ATMA without playing SC normal to end?

    @Hector: Original septavirate IIRC allowed muling one item in NM an another in Hell from character to character with the additional clause that no character could use same item. Meaning that if my sorc found a wonderful pally shield she could give it to the pally when he got to NM or Hell and if the pally found the shako he could give it to the sorc if he didn't wear it even for a while when the sorc gets to NM or Hell.

    Ulla



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    Re: Tournament: Septavariate

    I think I'm up for this. One small question for Hector: I have a lvl 22 HC Amazon who was my second entry in the Bow Masters tournament, but now that tourney is finished, I'm wondering can I swap her over to this one? The intent was to make her a Freezing Arrow/Strafe Bowazon, though I half a mind to add Lightning Fury to the arsenal and stick with 1 point Strafe (because I've already out the 3 points in prereqs). The restrictions for the Bow tourney were more stringent than this one, and I have kept separate stashes for her, so there's no problems with rule breaking, but it's up the host. Otherwise I'm going to be starting a new FA/LF Zon, so for obvious reasons I'd rather not have to do Act 1 again.

    edit: does anyone know why the heck cutting/copying and pasting inside code tags causes the squid to insert an extraneous pair of extra-sticky (no amount of editing seems to get rid of them) code tags, thus splitting a table?

    Code:
    Contestant   Class  Character  Build           Lvl   Location           Points
    ==============================================================================
    Hector        Ama   Juno       Javelin           1   Rogue Encampment        0
                  Asn                                0   Not Created             0
                  Bar                                0   Not Created             0
                  Dru                                0   Not Created             0
                  Nec                                0   Not Created             0
                  Pal                                0   Not Created             0
                  Sor                                0   Not Created             0
    ==============================================================================
    Jason Maher   Ama  TBA         LF/FA             0   Not Created             0
                  Asn  Electrica   Light Trapper     1   Rogue Camp              0
                  Bar  Fereaux     Beserker          1   Rogue Camp              0
                  Dru  Wurz        Rabies/Fury       1   Rogue Camp              0
                  Nec  Sirius      Skelemancer       1   Rogue Camp              0
                  Pal  Greas       Hammerdin         1   Rogue Camp              0
                  Sor  Sarai       CL/FO             1   Rogue Camp              0
    ==============================================================================
    Code:
    Rank  Contestant     Guardians      Points     Bonus     Malus     Total
    ========================================================================
    0     Hector                 0           0         0         0         0
    0     Jason Maher            0           0         0         0         0
    ========================================================================



    Last edited by Jason Maher; 08-10-2009 at 16:12.

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    Re: Tournament: Septavariate

    @Sp3c: welcome and have fun, make sure to sign up your team.

    @srs0: that's completely understandable. I have updated the rules to allow one non-HC char per team, if that char was the "HC enabler", until his/her first death of course. If the character dies once, it will be considered 'deeds' and must be restarted in HC. Welcome to the tourney.

    @UllaV: good idea. I've added the new rule about transfering a limited amount of items per team. It would be probably too tempting/cruel indeed to not allow even a single item to be transfered, specially class specific ones. Thanks.

    @Jason Maher: Welcome and good luck with your team! I see no problem with using your Amazon for this tournament. She doesn't look 'tainted' at all given the rules, so feel free to go ahead and sign her up.



    Last edited by Hector; 08-10-2009 at 17:47.

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    Re: Tournament: Septavariate

    Quote Originally Posted by Hector
    @srs0: that's completely understandable. I have updated the rules to allow one non-HC char per team, if that char was the "HC enabler", until his/her first death of course. If the character dies once, it will be considered 'deeds' and must be restarted in HC. Welcome to the tourney.
    Awesome, thanks!

    Code:
    Contestant   Class  Character  Build           Lvl   Location           Points
    ==============================================================================
    Hector        Ama   Juno       Javelin           1   Rogue Encampment        0
                  Asn                                0   Not Created             0
                  Bar                                0   Not Created             0
                  Dru                                0   Not Created             0
                  Nec                                0   Not Created             0
                  Pal                                0   Not Created             0
                  Sor                                0   Not Created             0
    ==============================================================================
    Jason Maher   Ama  TBA         LF/FA             0   Not Created             0
                  Asn  Electrica   Light Trapper     1   Rogue Camp              0
                  Bar  Fereaux     Beserker          1   Rogue Camp              0
                  Dru  Wurz        Rabies/Fury       1   Rogue Camp              0
                  Nec  Sirius      Skelemancer       1   Rogue Camp              0
                  Pal  Greas       Hammerdin         1   Rogue Camp              0
                  Sor  Sarai       CL/FO             1   Rogue Camp              0
    ==============================================================================
    srs0          Ama  Marle       LF/CS/?          58   (N)Canyon of the Magi -58
                  Asn              Not Created       0   Not Created             0
                  Bar              Not Created       0   Not Created             0
                  Dru              Not Created       0   Not Created             0
                  Nec              Not Created       0   Not Created             0
                  Pal              Not Created       0   Not Created             0
                  Sor              Not Created       0   Not Created             0


    Code:
    Rank  Contestant     Guardians      Points     Bonus     Malus     Total
    ========================================================================
    1     Hector                 0           0         0         0         0
    1     Jason Maher            0           0         0         0         0
    3     srs0                   0         -58         0         0       -58
    ========================================================================


    Marle is -58 points:
    -Level 58 mercenary (-58)
    -100 points in vitality (-100)
    -Has completed normal (+100)
    I played her a bit earlier, hence why she's no longer at the palace.

    What's the point of points, bonus, and malus in the second table? Aren't they taken into consideration on a per-character basis? Just curious.





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