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    Whats the most powerfull runeword for 2 hand weapon


    Whats the best runeword for a 2 handed wielding WW barb?
    BOTD
    Death has some nice mods
    Last Wish looks very nice mods
    Some other RW that I missed perhaps?

    Also is dual wield axes just superior to using a 2 handed axe?
    Plan on making a Titan 2 handed Axe Barb....
    Please advise
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    Re: Whats the most powerfull runeword for 2 hand weapon

    Last Wish and Death are slow for WW
    BotD can reach it on a weapon with [0] base weapon speed
    ethereal, p.nova, dual leech, pvh, 30 stats
    it's all great mods .. w/o even counting the dmg/ar mods



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    Re: Whats the most powerfull runeword for 2 hand weapon

    I agree, eBotd is probably the best choice. You could use a pair of Griefs too, which would yield higher average damage. However, you would need to free up a piece of gear to put some leech on, and you'd want to go Phase Blades for durability imo (but loose in the range department).


    Quote Originally Posted by dontdisagree View Post
    Last Wish and Death are slow for WW
    BotD can reach it on a weapon with [0] base weapon speed
    ethereal, p.nova, dual leech, pvh, 30 stats
    it's all great mods .. w/o even counting the dmg/ar mods
    Right, however, p.nova is useless, even if it did fire with ww, which it doesn't.




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    Re: Whats the most powerfull runeword for 2 hand weapon

    All of these 2-handers hit fastest whirlwind breakpoint (important). The ones with (?) I am not sure if they hit last ww speed bp 2 handed since arreat summit and calculator say yes but some forums say no. All damages are average damage for perfect stats.

    - ebotd great poleaxe range 5, avg 669 dmg
    - ethy tombreaver zod ohm 40/15 ias range 4, avg 645 dmg
    - ebotd ghost spear range 5, avg 668 dmg
    - ebotd champion axe range 3, avg 591 dmg
    - ebotd colossus blade range 3, avg 668 dmg
    - Oath champion axe range 3, avg 522 dmg
    - Oath colossal sword, balrog blade, colossus blade (do these hit last breakpoint 2h???) range 3
    - Oath highland blade range 3
    - Oath champion sword range 3
    - Oath feral axe range 3, avg 505 dmg
    - Grief Zwiehander? range 3
    - Kingslayer sword? range 3
    - Hand of Justice sword?
    - Fury sword? range 3
    - Passion sword? range 3
    - Wind sword? range 3

    For comparison's sake, some popular 1h axes that hit last whirlwind breakpoint.

    - ebotdz range 3, avg 367 dmg (+ so many tasty mods)
    - Grief Berserker Axe range 3, avg 455 dmg (+ 20% ds will make even higher)
    - Doom z range 3, avg 230 dmg (+ds, ow, aura)
    - Beast z range 3, avg 178 dmg (+cb, ow, aura)
    - Ethy Deathcleaver range 3, avg 271 dmg (+DS, -defence)
    - Fury z range 3, avg 154 (+ many pvp mods)
    - Ethy Razor's Edge range 1, avg 222 dmg (+ds, ow, -defence)

    What is really stronger??? It depends on a lot of things like pvp or pvm, the rest of your gear/charms/auras, total amounts of open wounds, crushing blow, deadly/critical strike, and of course range, indestructibility, and raw damage.



    Last edited by Damric; 26-03-2009 at 23:55.

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    Re: Whats the most powerfull runeword for 2 hand weapon

    Quote Originally Posted by Damric View Post
    an ebotd champion axe will nearly net same damage as two ebotd berserker axes, or beast/grief/doom combo's.
    ?!? to my knowledge nothing comes close to beast/grief dmg wise for ww'ers.




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    Re: Whats the most powerfull runeword for 2 hand weapon

    Quote Originally Posted by XDoomasX View Post
    ?!? to my knowledge nothing comes close to beast/grief dmg wise for ww'ers.
    True, grief/beast berserker axes (perfect average damage 455 and 183 +tasty mods of beast) is the quite useful versus a single enemy in many cases (very useful pvp). A range 5 (perfect ebotd gpa is 669 average +200% vs undead) can sometimes be more powerful overall, especially pvm. Also beast/grief has very low durability, and sometimes that matters (especially pvm). I actually like dual doomz's or ethy deathcleaver or fury as my overall preference when dual wield ww-pvp and dual ebotdz for ww-pvm. If I recall, the absolute most damage-per-frame whirlwind dual wield combo is still a pair of perfect griefs (455 average damage each), of course one would have to factor in many things such as strength, outside auras, and other gears, charms, total deadly/critical strike, crushing blow, open wounds, ect.

    However he is looking for 2 handed weapons with preference of axe, which leaves us these options for high powered runewords:

    - ebotd champion axe (perfect roll is 591 average damage)
    - oath champion axe (perfect roll is 522 average damage)
    - oath feral axe (perfect roll is 505 average damage)

    I am going to edit my 1st post above and put in all the perfect average damage stats, because it makes it much more interesting to look at and compare, and because I am bored.



    Last edited by Damric; 26-03-2009 at 23:16.

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    Re: Whats the most powerfull runeword for 2 hand weapon

    Yep I saw that he asked for 2handed, but he also asked if dual wield is superior to 2handed and answer IMO is yes. Its ww mechanics that make dual wield barb deal more damage over time. At first 4th frame both weapons gets hit check (IIRC at 8th frame only one (main weap) gets hit check, Im not sure tho)
    so we have 2x griefs landing 2x 455 (910) at 4th frame.




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    Re: Whats the most powerfull runeword for 2 hand weapon

    Actually it's frame 4 that gets a single hit, then both weapons hit at 8,12,16,20,24 etc. The aura bonus from beast still adds to grief at frame 4, which is awesomeness.
    (still I'd go botd pvm, whether 2handed or duel weilding)




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    Re: Whats the most powerfull runeword for 2 hand weapon

    Go with BoTD in a colossus blade/sword, works the best. I my self are using a eBoTDz Berserker Axe that got really nice damage(in use on my wolf, 7,1k fury dmg )



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    Re: Whats the most powerfull runeword for 2 hand weapon

    What about Obedience in a Cryptic axe? Is that a viable option?




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