Does any have realistic builds for the common man

**mdstermite** · 03-02-2009, 16:59

I am becoming frustrated with looking for builds online. It seems that every build I see suggests using items that are nearly impossible to find. But perhaps I should explain my meaning of impossible.

I am only interested in PvM. I do not want to play online at all. Therefore any build I am looking for must allow for the possibility of actually finding the items in this manner.

Furthermore, all of the builds seem to suggest that you have these items from the beginning of the game. No one ever discusses what items they use or what items to look for in the process of building the character. What characteristics should I be looking for in an item?

To me, the things that are out there are not builds. They are builts.

Are such builds out there? Or am I on my own in feeling this way?

**Grumpy Old Wizard** · 03-02-2009, 17:07

Take a look at this thread in the single player forum.

http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/s...d.php?t=712964

You can make most anything work if you are patient enough.

What kind of characters do you like to play. Mele, ranged, spell caster...

**NASE** · 03-02-2009, 17:11

What you are looking for are probably guide written by single player people rather then those written by bnet people.
I know of two amazon guides that are written by single player people. Give them a go, perhaps this can help you get a few first builds - and don't forget to use atma so you can mule items. That will make it easier to find build that suit you as you will have more items to use.

http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/s...d.php?t=601100 - this guides links to some other that might be worth checking out. I know the LF/PJ is good, can't really tell much about the other guides, though generally Ugla seems trustworthy.

P.S. And this is just for amazons, there are other builds for other classes.
P.P.S. And welcome to the forum, hope you find what you are looking for.

**Aien** · 03-02-2009, 17:33

Hello, and welcome. That's a good question you raise, but respectfully, I think you're getting the wrong idea from the guides you're reading.

Some builds like auradins and others are indeed completely gear-dependent, that is, they need that exact gear to be viable. The majority of cookie-cutter type builds you read about, though, don't really need that suggested "best" gear to get through the game. Sure, you may not speed through it as fast, but you can certainly get by with many/most generic builds just using gear you find by taking your time and being careful.

I could be wrong, but it sounds like you are just picking up the game. Let us know, like Grumpy Old Wizard said, what type of character you like to play, and I'm sure we can help point you in the right direction.

I'll try to give you a few generic ideas without that information. A couple viable melee characters are your average fanatic zealot or frenzy barb. For spellcaster-types, a dual-tree sorc such as a meteorb can get through fine with self-found gear. A fishymancer or skelliemancer is a minion-type character that does fine without top end gear. All of those guides are searchable on this site.

You may also give Mursilis's Beginner's Guide to Build Selection a read if you haven't already. It's a great reference and stickied at the top of this subforum.

**Gorny** · 03-02-2009, 17:34

Hello,

this is Gorny speaking on behalf of Gorny.

Gorny would like to inform you that there are helpful stickied threads above. Gorny also wants top point out that one of them was posted by Mursilis and is titled "beginners guide to build selection"

Gorny suggests taking a read of it. Gorny thinks it might help you.

Gorny wishes you luck.

Gorny will now slip away unnoticed.

**Thyiad** · 03-02-2009, 17:38

Pop over to the SPF and have a look through the SPF FAQ (Link in the sig). While the thread Grumpy linked to is pretty good, there is a LOT more info in the SPF. We actually have one post of the FAQ dedicated to Build Guides.

Say hello while you're at it and feel free to ask any questions, you'll get a much more reasonable response regarding gear suggestions.

Enjoy.

EDIT:
Don't mind Gorny he's missing his P-90's.

**Gorny** · 03-02-2009, 17:47

Originally Posted by Thyiad

Pop over to the SPF and have a look through the SPF FAQ (Link in the sig). While the thread Grumpy linked to is pretty good, there is a LOT more info in the SPF. We actually have one post of the FAQ dedicated to Build Guides.

Say hello while you're at it and feel free to ask any questions, you'll get a much more reasonable response regarding gear suggestions.

Enjoy.

EDIT:
Don't mind Gorny he's missing his P-90's.

Gorny would like to inform Thyiad that he has a fully loaded P-90 Submachine gun. Gorny wishes to inform Thyiad that that is all that he needs to start shooting pecan pies.

Do not test Gorny because Gorny will destroy Pecan Pies.

**DoomBoy** · 03-02-2009, 18:33

try playing a naked necromancer or naked sorc: they're fun!

**mdstermite** · 03-02-2009, 19:02

First, thank you all for your suggestions. I'll certainly take a gander at the boards and links you suggested.

After rereading my post, I realized that it certainly could be assumed that I was new to the game, in general. I have actually been playing off and on for many years. My best build has been a lvl 50+ assassin that got stuck at the Ancients in Nightmare.

This post is the result of multiple years of compounded frustration. Before I start a new character I like to look at what others have done to get a feel for what seems to work, what is challenging, etc. But so many of these builds are meant for PvP or taking the time to "buy" items and such. In other words, I don't want to get too far into the game and realize that I've completely screwed my character.

All that said, I believe I probably posted in the wrong spot. My apologies if so...and thanks again.

**Noodle** · 03-02-2009, 20:18

Noodle recomends building a Blizzard sorceress, and getting her to Nightmare Mephisto. One of the reasons why Noodle enjoys Single Player so much is that it allows him to reroll or keep his maps (reroll by changing difficulties or making a TCP/IP game, keep by not changing difficulties or making / joining a TCP/IP game). If you follow Noodle's advice, you should be able to farm enough items to push on the Hell Mephisto. Noodle has found a plethora of end-game worthy items from dear, generous Mephisto. Noodle is particularly amused by how the Lord of Hatred is fooled by a simple moat. (Noodle is not very impressed by Hell's interviewing and screening routines.)