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    Re: Piles of Money Tourney

    Quote Originally Posted by zerth View Post
    Why make a special category for a rule that allows you to gather more gold? I say join the tourney as is

    Do not tell anyone, but selling items is actually inefficient.
    Haha

    I have a kick-sin level 49 I raid the concil at Normal with... gets me piles of 5000 - 11000 gold (not crazy 70 k piles you get, saw your vid on youtube)

    Great going! I didnt think they droped more gold in hell, but I didnt do so much research.



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    Re: Piles of Money Tourney

    Quote Originally Posted by zerth View Post
    Do not tell anyone, but selling items is actually inefficient.
    Hey! Im right below 2Mil mark exclusively by selling items!



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    Re: Piles of Money Tourney

    Do you guys need Greed Charms?

    I raid LK 1000 runs / week (I´m farming skillers so I find alot of greed charms)

    Just let med know!



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    Re: Piles of Money Tourney

    Quote Originally Posted by skiffcz View Post
    Hey! Im right below 2Mil mark exclusively by selling items!
    How many inventory spots do you keep open? Leaving a 2x3 space open, I get about 520 GF, which is about 23% of my total GF. Assuming an average 10M haul, that is 2.3M gold.

    Of course you might use less inventory space for item picking and therefore lose less GF. In any case, I bet lost %GF and lost time to sort loot, pickup, id and sell offsets the gold gain from selling items. Factor in useful 2nd mods of GF charms (mana, resists, ar) and you can see what I mean.




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    Re: Piles of Money Tourney

    zerth: I dont use GoldFind :P Any. Those 1.8 mil is from LK chest popping. But I dont run for runes, I have 6x4 open space inventory and pick up staves, wands, leet armor. It drops really much. Heavy townportaling -> cain -> ormus ->tk portal. I can bring it to 2.5 and more I think. Also, those 1.5 is from pindle and eldrich running lightning trapper -> Anya selling.

    Really this is just an experiment - find as much possible ways how to collect money other than building completely new char for it. I mean - everyone has LK/countess/pindle/WSK runner, but few of us dedicated gold barbs. We all need money though



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    Re: Piles of Money Tourney

    Code:
    | forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |
    |-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
    |zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 11.185.462 |    3 |   9.784.467 |Warcry  |
    |Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |
    |Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |
    |Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |
    |AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |
    |dune         | GoldFinger     |  6,411,882 |    5 |   6,096,427 |Warcry  |	
    |poops        | IgorHorkov     |  5.743.387 |    4 |   4.923.055 |WW      |
    |Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  5.733.965 |    4 |   4.835.626 |Leap    |
    |LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |
    |skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|
    |skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|
    |purplelocust | ?????          |          0 |    0 |           0 |        |
    |SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |
    |maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |

    i have a good map now, toorc is always on the outside area with the rest inside. i can tele into the corner behind the pillar and remain fairly safe. then tele out to get toorc. only pi is a problem, although i havent had a conviction (shudders) aura hit me yet.

    i have broken through 6 mill average now but i'm clearly not going to win this. ill be happy if i get to 7 mill now.

    this is a nice drop, and justifies the few seconds it takes to collect gc's

    Mentalist's Grand Charm of Sustenance
    Keep in Inventory to Gain Bonus
    Required Level: 53
    Item Version: 1.10+ Expansion
    Item Level: 85
    Fingerprint: 0x6294976b
    +32 to Life
    +1 to Shadow Discipline Skills (Assassin Only)

    attempt 4, 10 runs completed 6,411,882 gold. 2 pi bosses affected gold drops.

    --

    attempt 5, 11 runs completed 6,167,421 gold.

    there was a run where no gold at all dropped. and another where only 2 piles dropped :(

    dune




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    Re: Piles of Money Tourney

    Code:
    | forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |
    |-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
    |zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 11.185.462 |    3 |   9.784.467 |Warcry  |
    |Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |
    |Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |
    |zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |
    |Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |
    |AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |
    |dune         | GoldFinger     |  6,411,882 |    5 |   6,096,427 |Warcry  |	
    |poops        | IgorHorkov     |  5.743.387 |    4 |   4.923.055 |WW      |
    |Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  5.733.965 |    4 |   4.835.626 |Leap    |
    |LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |
    |skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|
    |skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|
    |purplelocust | ?????          |          0 |    0 |           0 |        |
    |SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |
    |maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |

    Just finished first attempt with the melee build. Goldmine is lvl 89 atm and managed to finish the runs with 0 deaths (his merc died once though). First, a few words on the build:

    Maxed WW, Sword Mastery, BO, enough Find Item to reach 50% chance after BC, 10 or so points in Natural Resists, 1pt Berserk, prereqs and a couple skill points saved.

    I went 0 FRW (including no skill points in Increased Speed/Stamina), which costs time especially when going from Travi WP to the temple (I always wp to act4 at the end of each run so I do not lose time walking through Kurast), BUT really helps WWing; especially when frozen the damage is awesome.

    Weapons are Grief PB and Oath eth Cryptic Sword. Total GF is 1473 (kill) and 2373 (hork).

    Managed 18 runs (100 seconds / run) which is on the slow side, but at least I run on /p3. I also managed to hork a 100700 pile. One run was a sad 76K (only one pile).

    Genrally, I am happy



    Last edited by zerth; 05-03-2009 at 15:02. Reason: corrected hork gf

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    Nicely done! I'm going to have to get doing on these projects- I'm not seeing an obvious best build emerging so I think I'll end up trying a few approaches. Interesting idea on the no Increased Speed/ no FRW method to improve the whirls- I would never have thought of that!




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    Re: Piles of Money Tourney

    Code:
    | forum name  | character      |  best run  | runs | run average |build   |
    |-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
    |zerth        | ScroogeMcDuckII| 11.185.462 |    3 |   9.784.467 |Warcry  |
    |Corrupted    | Majestic       |  8.902.754 |    2 |   8.587.480 |WW      |
    |Fabian       | WWGoldBarb     |  8.708.749 |    1 |   8.708.749 |WW      |
    |zerth        | GoldMine       |  8.618.899 |    1 |   8.618.899 |WW      |
    |Fabian       | GoldBarb       |  8.087.365 |    1 |   8.087.365 |Warcry  |
    |AJK          | CashCow        |  7.648.062 |    8 |   6.728.016 |Frenzy  |
    |dune         | GoldFinger     |  6,411,882 |    5 |   6,096,427 |Warcry  |	
    |poops        | IgorHorkov     |  5.743.387 |    4 |   4.923.055 |WW      |
    |Cyrax        | LeapOfFaith    |  5.733.965 |    4 |   4.835.626 |Leap    |
    |LHTB         | Fasces         |  5.133.963 |    1 |   5.133.963 |Frenzy  |
    |skiff        | hfa            |  1.835.539 |    1 |   1.830.000 |Telesorc|
    |purplelocust | Orfebre        |  1.857.304 |    1 |   1.857.304 |Leap    |
    |skiff        | Tixi           |  1.341.402 |    4 |   1.224.440 |Trapasin|
    |SnickerSnack | Cortez         |          0 |    0 |           0 |Warcry  |
    |maxicek      | Count_Brass    |          0 |    0 |           0 |Frenzy  |
    |-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|
    OK, I've finally got an entry in my own tourney- it only took me a couple of months!

    Orfebre is a Leap barb, with the plan being to wear lots of GF gear, stun the council with Leap, and then Hork. Right now he's only level 71 and still in NM, so I took him for a 30 minute run on NM Trav.

    This is a quick effort modelled on MalVeaux's guide: http://diablo.incgamers.com/forums/s...d.php?t=694333. One concern for that build is on the realms, where rapid restarting of games is a problem. So it's a slower safer plan with more GF. Cyrax did a much better job with the same approach!

    This was a weak first start and it's kind of garbled at this point. I'm still sorting out gear and learning how Leap can be used to push the council around. Mainly, I wanted to do a run to get on the board. I actually died early in the run (resists are low 55/-1/-8/-8, that will need some sorting out) and since I didn't have enough gold at that point to resurrect the merc without first getting back to my corpse, which was a big bumble. The runs were a little under about 3 minutes each, I think.

    Gear: Crown of Thieves, dual Ali Babas, Chance Guard, Gold Wrap, dual Dwarf Stars, Infernostride for GF. Merc has Wealth, Crown of Thieves and an ethereal Meat Scraper. I'm actually currently wearing Griswold's armor with a +dex set up, as I wanted to try throwing Gimmershreds to see how easy it is to switch between throwing and leaping. It's not as easy as I'd hoped, as the stun time for Leap is quite short.

    Leap is currently at 12 and I may bump it up somewhat, as there are still Council Members casting Hydras if they are out of the stun range. The merc was very sturdy and didn't even need potions, unlike Orfebre. That may be because I still have 150 stat points saved trying to figure out what will work well!

    The eventual idea is to level him more, and equip Lacerator and do some quick throws to trigger Amp to help the merc. Others have mentioned how much Amp speeds things up and used the charges on Gavel of Pain, for example. I figure I can eventually try Lacerator, since the CtC Amp is quite high (33%) but there will be the fleeing to worry about. The CtC Amp on Lacerator is level 3, weaker than that of the level 8 ones on the Gavel of Pain, so the duration may be too short for effective use of Lacerator.

    I was surprised at a couple of things: the gold piles ranged in size quite a lot, and there were runs where there were very few piles as well. Perhaps there are "dead tiles" where if a monster dies, nothing drops, around inside the council chamber. The biggest pile I saw was 32k and I'm sure once Orfebre makes his own Wealth that will go up more. Stepping into the Durrance and back was good for bringing the merc under control.
    I'm debating if I would like to get Cannot Be Frozen possibly, and I can see how teleport charges on an amulet will be very useful in due course.




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    Re: Piles of Money Tourney

    Hi Money makers!

    I have Plenty of Greed Charms (+38%, 39%, 40%) which I stacked up in LK if someone need for this tourney! (Of course I´ll give them away for free)

    Just let med know!

    /m



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