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I got some very sweet equipment upgrades from WoRG a few days ago, and results have been predictably nice. I got a Teleport amulet with 79% GF and +3 warcries among other stuff, which bumped hork% from 51 to 53 (compared to using an amulet with no skills), which is kinda neat since horking is insane for GFbarbs (900% extra GF = larger gold piles, and a guaranteed 3 drops from each hork = more gold piles). I also got a nice +14str +114% GF classic rare belt, so my GF total has increased by a lot since the last reported runs. I'm back to using 1.07 War Traveler over the 111% rares I got, mostly because I like the FRW.Code:| forum name | character | best run | runs | run average |build |GF on kill|GF on hork| |-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------| |Fabian | TravBarb | 19.402.902 | ? | - |WW |1761 |2661 | |Fabian | AxeGoldie | 16.481.925 | 14 | 14.114.161 |WW |1619 |2519 | |Fabian | WWGoldie | 13.878.412 | 25 | 11.262.666 |WW |1458 |2358 | |Jaedhann | Giebgold | 13.738.272 | many | not sure |WW | | | |zerth | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 | 7 | 11.132.742 |Warcry |2351 |2244 | |zaphodbrx | Hrothgar | 11,132,719 | 1 | 11,132,719 |WW | | | |maareek | GibCouncilGrief| 10.332.795 | 12 | 8.199.068 |WW |1461 |2225 | |Corrupted | Majestic | 8.902.754 | 2 | 8.587.480 |WW | | | |dune | GoldFinger | 8,862,493 | 31 | not sure |Warcry | | | |Fabian | WWGoldBarb | 8.708.749 | 1 | 8.708.749 |WW | | | |zerth | GoldMine | 8.618.899 | 1 | 8.618.899 |WW | | | |Fabian | GoldBarb | 8.087.365 | 1 | 8.087.365 |Warcry | | | |poops | IgorHorkov | 7.696.746 | 10 | 5.669.806 |WW |1062 |1836 | |AJK | CashCow | 7.648.062 | 8 | 6.728.016 |Frenzy | | | |Cyrax | LeapOfFaith | 6.483.353 | 6 | 5.331.682 |Leap | | | |LHTB | Fasces | 5.133.963 | 1 | 5.133.963 |Frenzy | | | |skiff | hfa | 1.835.539 | 1 | 1.830.000 |Telesorc| | | |purplelocust | Orfebre | 1.857.304 | 1 | 1.857.304 |Leap | | | |skiff | Tixi | 1.341.402 | 4 | 1.224.440 |Trapasin| | | |SnickerSnack | Cortez | 0 | 0 | 0 |Warcry | | | |maxicek | Count_Brass | 0 | 0 | 0 |Frenzy | | | |-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
After I got that stuff I decided to do a respec, so I opened my handy WW Barb Excel spreadsheet and started figuring out which combination of str/dex gave the highest damage per second. After quite a bit of tinkering I figured out that you wanted as much Strength as possible, but also that AR from equipment was more valuable than +max damage type stuff. So, out went my worst Sharp of Greed type charms, and in went a few Steel of Greed. It did hurt a lot to cut a literally perfect LC:
..but it meant both an increase in DPS and an increase in GF, so it was tough to ignore. A few other nice ones also got the axe:Code:Serrated Large Charm of Greed Large Charm Required Level: 42 Fingerprint: 0x6697c0d8 Item Level: 94 Version: Expansion +12 to Maximum Damage 22% Extra Gold from Monsters
Oh well. End result is I now get 618 GF from my charms, which is 2 below the maximum possible. A 10/64/39 and a 123/39 are bringing the numbers downCode:Sharp Grand Charm of Greed Grand Charm Required Level: 21 Fingerprint: 0x2d64653a Item Level: 81 Version: Expansion 1.10+ +10 to Maximum Damage +62 to Attack Rating 38% Extra Gold from Monsters Shimmering Small Charm of Greed Small Charm Required Level: 25 Fingerprint: 0x5eae07ec Item Level: 85 Version: Expansion 1.10+ All Resistances +5 10% Extra Gold from Monsters Sharp Large Charm of Greed Large Charm Required Level: 21 Fingerprint: 0x413f3728 Item Level: 88 Version: Expansion 1.10+ +5 to Maximum Damage +25 to Attack Rating 22% Extra Gold from Monsters Sharp Grand Charm of Greed Grand Charm Required Level: 21 Fingerprint: 0x54960fa4 Item Level: 85 Version: Expansion 1.10+ +9 to Maximum Damage +67 to Attack Rating 39% Extra Gold from Monsters
Yesterday I did two runs before the respec, and two runs after the respec. Unfortunately I only saved the results in a text file, which I didn't save when going to bed, but it was mostly in the 17-18.3M range. 18.3xx was definitely a new record anyway, I remember that much. Overall I wasn't super happy with these runs, I think they all included one or two deaths (the record run had one death and one aborted run), which is why I wasn't too bothered with updating the thread. I can do better.
Well, today I did one run, and I didn't die. It didn't go great (two runs where barely any gold piles dropped, below 200k each time), but at this point I'm not sure what I can do except hoping to get lucky. There's quite a bit of variance when hoping to get a perfect 30 minute block. This character gets a 45-50 second run which fills the inventory (910k) maybe 1/25 times, so the upper ceiling is maybe ~32M or soMore realistically, I'd like to break the 20M barrier, which I think can definitely happen with some luck. Today I got 18.4M gold in one try, I'll keep trying for a while. The only equipment upgrade I think I might do at this point is Cham'ing my CoT, my guess is it would probably be worth it, but it's tough to test out. Plus losing GF sucks anyway, so I dunno.
Hopefully next time I'll have a better result to report.
1. 18.450.264
Edit: Did another run. Went really really well overall, up until the ~27 minute mark when I died and then had to abort another run. With a decent ending, this would have been pretty hard to beat probably. That said, I think the character is so good now that this kind of result might be closer to average than I'm used to at the moment.
2. 19.402.902
Last edited by Fabian; 26-06-2012 at 15:09.
@OneNoob: the 30 minute window is pretty strict- not one GP should be gathered after the timer goes off. Saving, exiting, counting, muling is OK but no more gold or gold-generating activities (ie selling items to vendor.)
@Fabian: wow, that is an impressive result! You've continued to amaze with better optimization and results. I'm pretty sure that the variance is enough that you can reach 20 million with some luck on not dying and not getting aborts. And it is interesting that the variance is so significant. The 30 minute block is a big constraint. I wanted it to be long enough so that it was in effect averaging out a decent number of runs, but not so long that it was too long of an effort to think about trying multiple times. It seems like with runs times under a minute, some of the variance comes from whether or not you can squeeze an additional run in.
Definitely, sometimes it works out such that I finish the last run at 29:30ish, and it's like "yup guess I'm done" and it kinda sucks. This was the case in the record run earlier, basically I died, aborted, did a run and then had like 30 seconds to spare, so I got maybe 500k in the last 3½ minutes (nice sub 5M for the entire block pace!) or something which is kinda awful with how well it was going up until then.
Just did a run which didn't have any deaths but went really terribly horribly. Still 17.8M. Nice character this. 20M is most definitely happening, don't know what to reasonably shoot for though. 21 should be reasonable but probably not much past that? dunno really. Beating Jaed by 50% (20.6) would be kinda cool I guess.
Well I finally got to level 95, so it was time to give this a serious try.
One big problem I found was the clash between wanting to maximize gold find and picking up the other stuff. At first I changed out my charms and filled EVERY slot with GF charms, even dumping the tp and identify tomes. On the very first run, I found a rainbow facet jewel..
Hm let's see. No place to pick up the jewel. No identify tome to id it. Let's tp back to town and get that stuff. Oops.. no TP tome. Run back to the waypoint. Wow, that was a disaster. On the plus side, it turned out to be a 5/5 cold facet
I started over, and this time I left 2x3 space empty, plus carrying an identify tome. An ideal build would not even pick up high runes I suppose, only gold ( which I am not going to do). Wonder how other people dealt with the problem?
Result: 12,822,317 gold. A marginal improvement over the previous ( merc died a bit, so a bad run ), but I'm not going to do it again. Normally speaking I find this a relaxing character- I didn't build it for a competition, after all. Do 4-5 runs, then spend masses of money gambling , then go back, maybe bit of crafting along the way. I get paranoid about leaving items on the ground. Every GC I don't ID could be a skiller of life. Every blue monarch could be a potential jmod. And so on. And I don't think I have a chance of beating Fabian either. Did get a Gul rune out of it too ( and the 5/5 facet ) , which was nice.
Charms are probably the major issue. For a build like this, I think the best would be prefix steel, or sharp/fine and suffix 'of greed' . But looking through my stash I could find almost no such charms. Used 'bronze of greed's. Dismal. Some more equipment switches, got a new 158 gheeds and a new wealth in a sacred armor, that was mostly because I could. I always put massive amounts of extra str on barbs, after getting to 2700-2800 hp.
Fabian: I wonder how much of an issue AR is. Grief does have ITD after all.
Code:| forum name | character | best run | runs | run average |build |GF on kill|GF on hork| |-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------| |Fabian | TravBarb | 19.402.902 | ? | - |WW |1761 |2661 | |Fabian | AxeGoldie | 16.481.925 | 14 | 14.114.161 |WW |1619 |2519 | |Fabian | WWGoldie | 13.878.412 | 25 | 11.262.666 |WW |1458 |2358 | |Jaedhann | Giebgold | 13.738.272 | many | not sure |WW | | | |zerth | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 | 7 | 11.132.742 |Warcry |2351 |2244 | |zaphodbrx | Hrothgar | 12,822,317 | 2 | - |WW | | | |maareek | GibCouncilGrief| 10.332.795 | 12 | 8.199.068 |WW |1461 |2225 | |Corrupted | Majestic | 8.902.754 | 2 | 8.587.480 |WW | | | |dune | GoldFinger | 8,862,493 | 31 | not sure |Warcry | | | |Fabian | WWGoldBarb | 8.708.749 | 1 | 8.708.749 |WW | | | |zerth | GoldMine | 8.618.899 | 1 | 8.618.899 |WW | | | |Fabian | GoldBarb | 8.087.365 | 1 | 8.087.365 |Warcry | | | |poops | IgorHorkov | 7.696.746 | 10 | 5.669.806 |WW |1062 |1836 | |AJK | CashCow | 7.648.062 | 8 | 6.728.016 |Frenzy | | | |Cyrax | LeapOfFaith | 6.483.353 | 6 | 5.331.682 |Leap | | | |LHTB | Fasces | 5.133.963 | 1 | 5.133.963 |Frenzy | | | |skiff | hfa | 1.835.539 | 1 | 1.830.000 |Telesorc| | | |purplelocust | Orfebre | 1.857.304 | 1 | 1.857.304 |Leap | | | |skiff | Tixi | 1.341.402 | 4 | 1.224.440 |Trapasin| | | |SnickerSnack | Cortez | 0 | 0 | 0 |Warcry | | | |maxicek | Count_Brass | 0 | 0 | 0 |Frenzy | | | |-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
If you open inventory and pick up the item so that it's on the cursor and then exit the game it will still be on the cursor when you open the next game. I.e. you could have finished your run, picked up the jewel, started a new game and you would have the jewel in town.
I've been back in GF gear in the last couple days, trying to beat my record after leveling to 93 (from 91). I've grown increasingly frustrated, realizing that my record run was pretty damn lucky and that a lot of things went right. After a few attempts where I was having problems I respecced into 30 more points in Vitality and 30 more points in Dexterity, I feel slightly safer overall I guess, which has led to slightly smoother runs.Code:| forum name | character | best run | runs | run average |build |GF on kill|GF on hork| |-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------| |Fabian | TravBarb | 19.445.008 | ? | - |WW |1761 |2661 | |Fabian | AxeGoldie | 16.481.925 | 14 | 14.114.161 |WW |1619 |2519 | |Fabian | WWGoldie | 13.878.412 | 25 | 11.262.666 |WW |1458 |2358 | |Jaedhann | Giebgold | 13.738.272 | many | not sure |WW | | | |zerth | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 | 7 | 11.132.742 |Warcry |2351 |2244 | |zaphodbrx | Hrothgar | 12,822,317 | 2 | - |WW | | | |maareek | GibCouncilGrief| 10.332.795 | 12 | 8.199.068 |WW |1461 |2225 | |Corrupted | Majestic | 8.902.754 | 2 | 8.587.480 |WW | | | |dune | GoldFinger | 8,862,493 | 31 | not sure |Warcry | | | |Fabian | WWGoldBarb | 8.708.749 | 1 | 8.708.749 |WW | | | |zerth | GoldMine | 8.618.899 | 1 | 8.618.899 |WW | | | |Fabian | GoldBarb | 8.087.365 | 1 | 8.087.365 |Warcry | | | |poops | IgorHorkov | 7.696.746 | 10 | 5.669.806 |WW |1062 |1836 | |AJK | CashCow | 7.648.062 | 8 | 6.728.016 |Frenzy | | | |Cyrax | LeapOfFaith | 6.483.353 | 6 | 5.331.682 |Leap | | | |LHTB | Fasces | 5.133.963 | 1 | 5.133.963 |Frenzy | | | |skiff | hfa | 1.835.539 | 1 | 1.830.000 |Telesorc| | | |purplelocust | Orfebre | 1.857.304 | 1 | 1.857.304 |Leap | | | |skiff | Tixi | 1.341.402 | 4 | 1.224.440 |Trapasin| | | |SnickerSnack | Cortez | 0 | 0 | 0 |Warcry | | | |maxicek | Count_Brass | 0 | 0 | 0 |Frenzy | | | |-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
After lots of bad/failed/aborted attempts, I finally got a block of runs today where gold piles dropped, and were big. I died once ~10 minutes in, and I died in the last minute, but still just barely got a new record.
I don't know what to do, strategy/tactics wise, to improve this. At this point I can't think of anything except getting lucky as hell. Despite the new record, I still had a few really bad runs, as well as the 2 deaths, so I know a run where everything goes right still has lots of potential. I want to reach the 20M mark, and if I do I'll probably be happy with that result until someone beats it.
Still the same GF%/equipment.
1. 19.445.008
I'd say that sounds like a plan!
Wait. What? We have to put effort in your running efforts? Somehow that doesn't sound right.![]()
All kidding aside, that's quite a nice pile of gold you got there. If i didn't have so many other projects i might give this another go, but i doubt i'll get to that any time soon.
Boom. No deaths, no aborted runs. Might even have been no merc deaths.Code:| forum name | character | best run | runs | run average |build |GF on kill|GF on hork| |-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------| |Fabian | TravBarb | 20.551.565 | ? | - |WW |1761 |2661 | |Fabian | AxeGoldie | 16.481.925 | 14 | 14.114.161 |WW |1619 |2519 | |Fabian | WWGoldie | 13.878.412 | 25 | 11.262.666 |WW |1458 |2358 | |Jaedhann | Giebgold | 13.738.272 | many | not sure |WW | | | |zerth | ScroogeMcDuckII| 12.946.785 | 7 | 11.132.742 |Warcry |2351 |2244 | |zaphodbrx | Hrothgar | 12,822,317 | 2 | - |WW | | | |maareek | GibCouncilGrief| 10.332.795 | 12 | 8.199.068 |WW |1461 |2225 | |Corrupted | Majestic | 8.902.754 | 2 | 8.587.480 |WW | | | |dune | GoldFinger | 8,862,493 | 31 | not sure |Warcry | | | |Fabian | WWGoldBarb | 8.708.749 | 1 | 8.708.749 |WW | | | |zerth | GoldMine | 8.618.899 | 1 | 8.618.899 |WW | | | |Fabian | GoldBarb | 8.087.365 | 1 | 8.087.365 |Warcry | | | |poops | IgorHorkov | 7.696.746 | 10 | 5.669.806 |WW |1062 |1836 | |AJK | CashCow | 7.648.062 | 8 | 6.728.016 |Frenzy | | | |Cyrax | LeapOfFaith | 6.483.353 | 6 | 5.331.682 |Leap | | | |LHTB | Fasces | 5.133.963 | 1 | 5.133.963 |Frenzy | | | |skiff | hfa | 1.835.539 | 1 | 1.830.000 |Telesorc| | | |purplelocust | Orfebre | 1.857.304 | 1 | 1.857.304 |Leap | | | |skiff | Tixi | 1.341.402 | 4 | 1.224.440 |Trapasin| | | |SnickerSnack | Cortez | 0 | 0 | 0 |Warcry | | | |maxicek | Count_Brass | 0 | 0 | 0 |Frenzy | | | |-------------|----------------|------------|------|-------------|--------|----------|----------|
1. 20.551.565
BOOM!!
Congrats
gratz fabian! very cool achievement and you have put some serious effort into it
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