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    Whats wrong with me? (low damage)

    Hey,

    I've got a strafeazon I've been building, level 87. I totally love her, but then I look at what other peeps are getting as damage for a strafeazon, and others seem to be getting much higher damage. What wrong with my build/gear?

    Strafe Damage: 667-2566
    str: 163
    dex: 319
    vit: 154
    ener: 63

    Maxed strafe (level 30 with +skills)

    Gear:
    Faith in Great Bow (53-231 dam, lvl 14 fana)
    Andy's
    Highlord Wrath
    Gore Rider
    raven frost
    bk
    M'avina's Tenet
    Lava Gout (for the enchant)
    1 bow gc
    1 torch
    1 anni

    Might merc
    Dream in BV
    Reaper's Toll (for PI)
    Fort in eth DS

    Others seem to be claiming much higher damage numbers? Where do they get more damage from?

    (Also, any general tips for gear, I'm good at sorc's but this is first zon)
    Also, got a os in the andys. She isn't a mfer so I'm not going to ptopaz. What should I put in there (cham, and drop the ravenfrost for another bk?)



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    Re: Whats wrong with me? (low damage)

    what's your own armor? Do you use max damage/ar charms? They work a lot better than bow gc and with Fortitude armor, your damage rises (in case you don't use one). My strafer uses WF and her merc is a1 merc with Faith Ward Bow. There's some pointers.




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    Re: Whats wrong with me? (low damage)

    The main points where you are losing damage are - that's just my oppinion:
    stats. 163 str is simply to much. You could probably have given up to 63 points extra in dex and thus get more damage. Vit is a bit high aswell. And energie is just not done if you want high damage.
    charms: people use 3max/ar small charms. An inventory full with those things can really put your damage through the roof.
    merc: reaper's toll is a very great weapon, and your effective damage may be higher then you think, though the 'extra' damage from reaper's toll isn't displayed. People use pride for a good boots in damage.

    On top of that, you may chance some other equipment with more damage. 120/45 helm, cat's eye, dual raven (or raven/good stats ring), war trav, razortails...

    Just remember that damage is nice to look at, though doesn't mean anything - i.e. huge poison damage over long time isn't that usefull though lower damage with high chrusing blow is usefull in certain situations.




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    Re: Whats wrong with me? (low damage)

    Also, Armor is a fort in AP...
    Forgot to mention that.



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    Re: Whats wrong with me? (low damage)

    Quote Originally Posted by fauxgtfour View Post
    What wrong with my build/gear?

    Strafe Damage: 667-2566
    str: 163
    dex: 319
    vit: 154
    ener: 63
    To much points in str and vita.

    Quote Originally Posted by fauxgtfour View Post
    What wrong with my build/gear?

    Gear:
    Faith in Great Bow (53-231 dam, lvl 14 fana)
    Andy's
    Highlord Wrath
    Gore Rider
    raven frost
    bk
    M'avina's Tenet
    Lava Gout (for the enchant)
    1 bow gc
    1 torch
    1 anni
    Put the Faith on your merc and get yourself a Windforce. Swap Hoghlords for an Atma amulet. BK isnt needed, try getting a AR/Dex/Dam ring. Get Razortail belt, throw away the Lava Gout, use Demon Limb on switch instead and use a pair of LoH. Bow gc does nada, try getting maxdam/ar gcs.



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    Re: Whats wrong with me? (low damage)

    Quote Originally Posted by KremBanan View Post
    To much points in str and vita.


    Put the Faith on your merc and get yourself a Windforce. Swap Hoghlords for an Atma amulet. BK isnt needed, try getting a AR/Dex/Dam ring. Get Razortail belt, throw away the Lava Gout, use Demon Limb on switch instead and use a pair of LoH. Bow gc does nada, try getting maxdam/ar gcs.

    THanks for the advice. Wow.

    Why the windforce?

    For merc, should it be cold or fire arrow, or does it matter?

    Also, what should I wear for gloves? something ias with skills, or what?

    Also, what is LoH (pardon the noob in me)

    Thanks!!

    I think I'm going to rebuild and just transfer the gear over.



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    Re: Whats wrong with me? (low damage)

    It's called an LCS (Lying Character Sheet) for a reason. As a Blizzard representative once said, it's accurate up to about the point you get into the Den of Evil in Act1. The damage numbers in particular. A large reason for people choosing Grand Matron Bows to put Faith into is because it has the higher damage numbers, but be warned it is a vastly slower bow and requires an extraordinary amount of IAS to achieve faster firing speeds. Some people stack on as many +damage modifiers to get their numbers higher. It doesn't necessarily mean they are doing more damage than other options that don't affect the numbers. For example, War Travelers will increase the numbers, so will Steel Rends. If you just want to look at larger numbers stack on as many poison charms as you like. They are the largest numbers for their given respective sizes for charms. 50 damage on small is common. 100 is harder to find but doable. Rarely you will see 177s. You can also find Rings with +damage. The numbers are misleading. Adding and item with +3 may change your LCS damage numbers by +20 depending on your Dex. But don't be surprised when your numbers double and your effective killing speed doesn't. The listed strafe damage on one of my zons is 600-1600, but I'm secure to say it will beat the pants off most people that list in the 3000 range.

    The enchant on Lava Gout is puny. Laying of Hands. A good chunk of the game contains demons. Damage to Demons will not show up on your LCS damage numbers but Lava Gout will, so you may prefer to stay with yours. After Lava Gout enchants you, look at your LCS, they should be higher. I would keep the Ravenfrost. Being chilled by a monsters cold attack significantly reduces your firing speed not to mention it adds Dex/AR both of which you want.

    For a pure strafer aim for
    Dex: 400+
    Vitality: 100

    Some don't put any in vitality but that's really a matter of opinion and play style.



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    Re: Whats wrong with me? (low damage)

    Windforce: Because its the bow with highest damage. And when combined with the Fana aura you get speed also.

    Cold Rogue (hire in normal difficulty)

    Gloves: LoH - Laying of Hands 20IAS/350ed to demons/50fireres



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    Re: Whats wrong with me? (low damage)

    Windforce with rogue merc holding faith bow is amazing damage output.




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    Re: Whats wrong with me? (low damage)

    I understand your point about the listed damage, and you're right, the lava gouts had me decieved into liking them too much I suppose. I'll be switching to the laying of hands next time I log on (and lava gouts enchant +ar bonus isn't worth it either, right?)

    As is the zon is fine at running at cows and pit and chaos with one person in the game. The main thing I was interested in was getting her to be able to run chaos with more than just me in the game, possibly as high as 8 players.

    So, that being said, for chaos runs with high # of players, which would be better, my faith in great bow (fastest speed of all bows, right?) or the windforce not necessarily for highest damage, but for best killing power and fastest clearing time?

    So, proposed setup: (questions in bold)
    Fort in AP
    Laying of Hands (used to be lava gout)
    1 x raven, 1x magic with +dex and poss resists (used to be raven and bk)
    Atmas or Cats eye?(used to be highlords)
    Razortail (used to be m'avinas)
    Andys 10ll (good to keep? What to socket it with? Will that be all the ml and ll I need?)
    Faith in Great Bow (current) or Windforce?
    Gore Riders
    more charms (what will be the most important?)



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