PvM Gunslinger - Physical Bow/Lightning Java Hybrid

[Kijya]

Alright I will see where to put spare points

I assume the video in which you did CS run, you have a balance hybrid Gunslinger there, Kijya? You didnt make java too strong/ bowa too strong, you went the balanced way didnt you? It is personal preference right? But I would love to get a balance Gunslinger

It's very hard to make both sides equally strong, however you can make both sides on a single amazon so strong that they handle lower playercount games without any problems. My amazon has a rather expensive gear setup so it's no wonder those points are reached on her. For this reason I can mostly use both sides in a balanced fashon when playing her on 1-3p games, but I have to admit that the javelin side is stronger, which is mostly noticable when in games with 4-8 players.

That said multishot has higher AoE and less moster resistance problems so that makes it easier to just spam, while the lightning skills are acctually more powerful. This equals me using both fairly equally even in higher playercounts just because I'm to lazy to always use the most effective approach.

Hmm, Kijya if I may ask, you used to have a link in your sig that is your gunslinger in the zon showoff thread. Is it gone?

Yeah, removed the link from my sign, but I do have a link in the guide.

6.2 References
Amazon Showoff Thread

1. putting 1 point in each bow skill is enough ????(i have +14all skill atm) or just need some more additional points??

Yes, the bowskills do not really gain much for extra points other then extra arrows on multi and strafe, and as mentioned in the guide there's little point going all out on those. +14 is more then enough, so you can use the points saved in the other trees.

2. Is 100ias enough for the build(with no faith)?? (im currently using andyface/15ias along with treachery)

Depends on the bow you're using. Check the amazon tables for bow breakpoints (WSM of base bows included in a table there so you know which column to check). That said if you're using wws you may wish to focus on strafe as your primary bow attack, and that skill doesn't need much IAS at all so 100% would be more then enough for any bow.

3. Does Pul really worth it , for upgradding wws or just better swap to buriza/eagle?? (wat would b better choice)
- 3.1 if i decide for wws, is it better to put 2sheal on it instead of 1sheal1nef?? i think that knockback wont necessary too much

Considdering how often puls drop in 1.13 there's no reason not to get an uppgraded wws. And if you do then focus on strafe and don't bother with shaels in your bow since they're not needed (strafe barely needs any IAS to be effective).

If you insist on using multi then I'd go with buriza. Which option is better actually depend on what areas you run and your preferance ...

4. wat 4os bow should i look for my merc's Harmony?? (clv85 atm)

Any elite (non amazon only) bow works as long as your merc has the dex to use it. Keep in mind that a act 1 merc isn't much of a killer compared to you so you don't really loose much DPS by giving her a subpar bow, see just needs something for a bit of leeching to fill her up after taking some stray shots.

5. best place to find Windforce, pindle right???

Yup, at least in SP where they can run him endlessly very fast. To be honest I'd discurage you for running a specific target just to get one on the realms, just run whatever targets you enjoy and keep an eye open on the trade forums. You're far more likely to find something you can trade for one then actually finding a WF yourself.

[metorika]

well after all, WWS did really bad on me ........ the damage was so smalllll, it really took me so long to kill those LIs group (300 dex isnt enough for this bow??)
Things get worst when playin in 2 or 3 players game. Those LIs not only Imune to lighting but also Imune to my WWS lolz.
Then i gave up on WWS and dicided to jab them 1by1

Srsly, I have no idea why ppl like this little bow so much, i just dont see any good on it yet (except for those +40 all resist ;p)


ps. im playing on private realm and not much people here.
Any way just wanna know wat WF worth??

[zaphodbrx]

WWS sux. Try Buriza, or 'Harmony' in a Grand Matron bow. Ultimately you'd want to get windforce, ofcourse.

[metorika]

Buriza, has Ok damage but some how it fired too slow to handle those Lis in hell + no AR mod which I really need on my highly focus java's build.

Gues not much option left here.... Is it better to sacrifice some of my lighting synergy and put those points to boost AR instead?

Btw,Kijya could u please list ur item,charm and skill build in that montage(CS run)

[Kijya]

wws is a cheap option that works if you build around it, but it's indeed not something I'd want to use in games with a higher playercount.

Getting more AR by upping penetrate would probably be needed when on a lower budget unless you utilize enchant (either from lava gout gloves or demon limb charges). Just check your chance to hit to see if you need to get more AR, but remember that it also depends on your character level vs monster level so once you're done you may not need as much as you did when leveling.

Time to show the fruits of the telehybrid project, still both leveling and upgrading gear on her of course, but not like I was ever completely finished with the ones I've posted previously.

At the time of this post she's using the things below, however I might update gallery once something changes.

General
Name: Miria-SoV
Level: 96
Occupation: Obliterate things in a stylish manner.

Equipment:
Amazon:
Griffon's Eye (-19/+14,IAS Jewel)
Highlord's Wrath
Titan's Revenge (180ed,8ll,eth)
Windforce (8ml,shael)
"Enigma" (Mage Plate)*
Monarch (15/15 lightning facets)
Crafted Gloves (2java,20IAS,knockback,9dex)
Rare Ring (10fcr,6ml,5ll,11mana,4allres)
Razortail (145ed)
Raven Frost (215ar,20dex)
Rare Boots (30frw,10fhr,9dex,36lr,40fr,33pr)

GC (36life,14allres)
GC (32life,13allres)
GC (22life,13allres)
GC (Java skiller,31life)
GC (Java skiller,31life)
GC (Java skiller,29life)
LC (5max,29ar,33life)
sc (5allres)
sc (11cr)
3x sc (20 Life,5allres)
Anni (18stat,19res,9xp)
Torch (20stat,19res)


Merc:
"Faith" (Great Bow,15/1)
"Delerium" (Diadem)
"Chains of Honor" (Eth Great Hauberk)


Some Numbers:
~3600 multi damage, 10k ar (606 dex)
~3800 strafe damage
~5000 GA damage
~7100 cs damage
~3000 lf damage
15 frame teleport
716 life
72/32/75/65 resists in hell

[zabu]

Hi Kijya.

YOu know how much I want to make this gunslinger.

If I use Faith, do you recommend it? Because in your showoff thread you used Windforce correct?

So, if I use Faith, should it be GMB or MB? This is like eternal debate...but this is for gunslinger, so I need your pro input. Thanks

[Kijya]

MB vs GMB is more of a PVP question, where mobility is a much larger factor and each frame counts towards escaping your oponent or interupting their actions. For PvM you can stick with GMB without any worries as the damage compensates for the lower speed even if you have to settle for 8fpa instead of 7fpa.