Sara's Rift-a-Sin PVM

**xNamastex** · 01-02-2009, 00:45

Originally Posted by epure

I played so many sins but this is my fav

I've made a video here http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qUcnz4iQwJ0 which also shows my Summoner necro as well

Watched your vid. I liked it.

Why do you use Tiger Strike on your left mouse click vs Dtalon?

Also, are you primarily using Bos or Fade in PVM? Wondering why you have so much IAS if you are using BoS.

**epure** · 01-02-2009, 22:03

Originally Posted by xNamastex

Watched your vid. I liked it.

Why do you use Tiger Strike on your left mouse click vs Dtalon?

Also, are you primarily using Bos or Fade in PVM? Wondering why you have so much IAS if you are using BoS.

I use BoS. I put only one point for that if you see the video description you will see th EQ i got would make it go to lv15 which is about +50 ias, plus I use Cat's Eye so I already hit my Ias cap..., the 15 Ias/all res jewel on my Nightwing became unecessary. The other I like about BoS is i can move around quick. Time = money!

Don't fancy Fade...
I don't need the defense but need BoS's attack. This is up to you though, depending on your play style. But the pointt of this is to get as many Chance to Casts as possible so I won't really be left clicking anyway.
I use Tiger Strike because theres no other.I suppose I could Phoenix Strike I guess for the hell of it!

**sweetalmonds** · 08-02-2009, 08:04

looks fun i may try makin one sometime

about the gear for ubers, is last wish good or bad? the fade on it is prolly lower than you can cast yourself right? but its the highest chance to ctc lt for non pally.

and the gloves
"Gloves: Dracs. The ow and str help a ton. Oh yeah free lifetap woot"
what u think 20ias 10cb crafted or loh do? sry if its been mentioned but with these for sure you wouldnt need the ias on any ammy. how much of the damage is pure physical btw

e\
i was skeptical about the damage at first
just tried in game and she kicks *** on 8 player nice build ;]

**Rice_Farmer3** · 18-02-2009, 04:23

Hmm... how does Ormus's Robe do for this build? Up to +15% cold damage. One or more point in fade would give you a decent resists and PDR to make up for not using CoH.
Also, I guess if you use a Faith merc, you can hit the IAS breakpoint without the items, freeing up some slots, and you wouldn't have to worry about IM so much. Then again, losing Infinity is a tough deal to swallow.
Great guide. Definitely trying this out sometime. (What else am I going to do with my gul runes? :P)

**epure** · 03-03-2009, 09:01

Originally Posted by Rice_Farmer3

Hmm... how does Ormus's Robe do for this build? Up to +15% cold damage. One or more point in fade would give you a decent resists and PDR to make up for not using CoH.
Also, I guess if you use a Faith merc, you can hit the IAS breakpoint without the items, freeing up some slots, and you wouldn't have to worry about IM so much. Then again, losing Infinity is a tough deal to swallow.
Great guide. Definitely trying this out sometime. (What else am I going to do with my gul runes? :P)

In my build I don't even use Headhunter's + 3 5/5 Cold Facets, personally I don't find the +cold damage that much difference which you would find in Ormus's.

I suppose you can use Ormus if you really want to, but you have to make up elsewhere for the loss of +2 skills if you want those extra kicks and 65 resistance found in CoH.

**Herbiegaf3** · 07-03-2009, 21:27

It says in the guide "There is only 2 scepter's that this can be made in War scepter (ideal) and Caddie's. War scept is both easier to find and cheaper to repair. These have a base wsm of -10." Is there any reason it can't be made in a divine scepter?

**Hyboric** · 08-03-2009, 16:23

Wouldn´t the assassin armor, to bad it's lvl73 though, with 3 sockets stuffed with +5 cold dam jewels make this a hefty bit funkier with the aformented cold helm and 3 socket shield. Granted only 50% cold damage but with -res from infinity we are looking at 800+ dam per shard pretty nice considering this will punch a lot faster than my coldsorc thats pretty decked out. Woot lvl 24 and kicking my way to the goodies.. Will let you know sometime thanks for an interesting build.

**Windburn** · 12-03-2009, 11:15

I pretty much registered to post in this thread, after so many years of just skimming through posts. In any case, I love the rift-sin concept, it's a blast playing through and seeing spell effects everywhere while tearing up PvM!

I do have one question though, to those more knowledgeable than I:

In the OP, there is mention of putting enough points to get SM to 17, and a comment that the OP needed to only put in a couple of points.

How is it possible to get that many skill points with the listed gear?
From what I can tell, if you have all the top end gear recommended (which I have amassed, incidentally), then it still only gets you to ~6-7 + skills.

Granted, you may have a few skillers, and an anni, but there's no way that is anywhere near 15 skill points. Also, if it's recommended that skillers be for traps, how are we meant to get DT to 30 for the 6 kicks?

There must be something I'm not considering, or something I've overlooked, because it just doesn't seem to add up in my head :P

Please prove me mistaken you generous, intelligent person out there!

**Master Zap** · 19-03-2009, 05:08

Originally Posted by Windburn

I pretty much registered to post in this thread, after so many years of just skimming through posts. In any case, I love the rift-sin concept, it's a blast playing through and seeing spell effects everywhere while tearing up PvM!

I do have one question though, to those more knowledgeable than I:

In the OP, there is mention of putting enough points to get SM to 17, and a comment that the OP needed to only put in a couple of points.

How is it possible to get that many skill points with the listed gear?
From what I can tell, if you have all the top end gear recommended (which I have amassed, incidentally), then it still only gets you to ~6-7 + skills.

Granted, you may have a few skillers, and an anni, but there's no way that is anywhere near 15 skill points. Also, if it's recommended that skillers be for traps, how are we meant to get DT to 30 for the 6 kicks?

There must be something I'm not considering, or something I've overlooked, because it just doesn't seem to add up in my head :P

Please prove me mistaken you generous, intelligent person out there!

hoto/ spirit +5
2X +3 shadow disc shopped claws +6
nw+2
Shopped Blue hat +3
Coh/ treachery +2
1-3 skills ammy
torch +3
anni+1
Soj/bk +1-2
+1 battle command

It's quite easy to prebluff the sin to level 17 or higher with 1 or a couple points in master as shown above. I'd keep a 3 ammy in stash and call it good. I like swapping around as little as possible. But you could get fancy as shown above with some vendor stuff if you want to commit the inventory space to it.

This build is great for walking areas, so the extra second taken to buff the master to 17 means you most likely wont need to recast her again. I think I did have a shadow gc or two that dropped along the way in use. I tend to not use skillers much on any of my characters. I also never bothered with soj/bks either.

welcome to the forums

Please prove me mistaken you generous, intelligent person out there!

I wasnt making that claim, but I stand by the buff'ing your master statement

**Master Zap** · 19-03-2009, 05:13

Originally Posted by Herbiegaf3

It says in the guide "There is only 2 scepter's that this can be made in War scepter (ideal) and Caddie's. War scept is both easier to find and cheaper to repair. These have a base wsm of -10." Is there any reason it can't be made in a divine scepter?

good spot!, your correct.

No reason except it's the odd middle duckling.

Cheap and easy to equip+find (stats) = War scept

higher damage for possible use on bfury , or to try a riftadin build after = Caddy.

I'm a big fan of using whats on hand though. If that's a divine beat stick then by all means use it.