Throwing Glitch and Equipment

[TheDarkWanderer]

Just making a throwing hybrid at the moment and need some opinions from some experts concerning a glitch and suggested equipment.

PVM NLSC ONLY and I will describe my gear just to cover that, most of it is set in stone except for gloves, belt, and weapons.
Arreats 15ias
20 ias gloves (having hard time choosing which to use)
Nosferatu belt (at the moment)
Goreriders
Chains of Honor
Cats Eye (have Highlords but using the dex from Cat's til I decide on belt)

Use either Lacerator + Warshrike or 2 Warshrikes
With that gear I will hit the 4.5 frame according to the speed calc.


First I'll cover the glitch. So I am trying to decide which set of throwing weapons I should use and have been testing out combos of Warshrike, Lacerator, and Gimmers and noticed something strange. I had a WS in the left hand and a Lacerator in the right and swapped out the Lac for a Gimmer. I then started throwing and the speed doubled and only axes came flying out (quantity was still subtracting from the knives). I weapon switched to my set of swords and then switched back and started throwing what seems very slow and now an axe and a knife come out. Then I started thinking my throwing seems extremely slow compared to all the other throwers I have made (although they had 45ias armor, it was only .5 frames different). Anyone have an idea what is going on?


Second, trying to decide on a belt, gloves, and weapon set. For gloves I have narrowed it down to LoH and the only set of gloves I have ever crafted 20 ias 9% Crushing blow along with some other minor mods. I am totally up in the air on these.

The belt I am between Razortail, Tgod, and Nosferatu- I have my str and dex attributes depending on one of these belts. Nosf only really makes a big difference if I want to use Gimmers to reach the 5 frame breakpoint and if I'm screwing around with a champion sword on switch. Razor seems like the best with the 33pierce if I want to be the strongest at throwing but my character is completely capable of melee and I don't want to be a pure thrower. Tgod, only elemental thing that is really dangerous are those Gloams and lightning enchanted bosses. The strength and vitality are also nice but maybe I am paranoid a bit, doesn't that CTC Fist of Heavens interupt your attack and leave you vulnerable? Maybe I should just get a Wisp ring, %20 light absorb must cost a ton though?

Weapon set. With my pure throwers I usually went with Lac + WS but the monster flee and depending on CTC amp damage for phys immune is starting to wear me thin. I could put a Reapers Toll on my merc and use 2 WS but I don't like depending on his slow *** + CTC and like him using Insight because mana burn is driving me crazy- I also have Berserk on weapon switch. I would love to use 2 WS but now I am thinking of using WS + Gimmer which would drop my speed to 5 frames. WS + Lac or 2 Gimmers are probably the most sensible thing to do though :cry:

Anyone help would be greatly appreciated! :smiley:

[[exile]]

Concerning the throwing glitch, I can't explain the high-speed axes-only part. However I can tell you that whichever weapon is last applied becomes the "second" weapon, regardless of which side you place it on.

To put it simply: if you remove your right-hand (gloves side) weapon and put a new one in that slot, it becomes the secondary weapon. However when you W-button weapon switch back and forth, they become reapplied in the correct order (glove side primary).

As for the rest, I've never made a ThrowBarb, so I'll leave that for other players to respond to.

[TheDarkWanderer]

Thanks Exile

I did notice that how the hands switch back after doing a weapon switch when I was playing today.

I was just messing around with the throwing weapons again and it is still doing it with having 1 axe (Gimmer) and 1 Warshrike. It is very bazaar, now when I switch back and forth it is either 2 axes or 2 knives depending on which hand is holding which. At first I thought it was a display bug where the wrong graphic was depicted. But then I started noticing when supposedly 2 Warshrikes were coming out no Nova was being cast so obviously 2 Gimmers were coming out with knives graphics but with Gimmer stats, taking quantity off of both, and of course the LCS is displaying damage that would match 1 Warshrike and 1 Gimmer.

So after I decided which gear to wear (Razor, LoH) I will probably quit because of this lame glitch- this char was a very fun, unique, and effective hybrid too :cry:

[RoXoR]

just a note, there are no speed differences in .5 frames
(no such thing as half a frame :P)
oh and be aware cb gets a fraction of its % with ranged attacks

[JuniorHigh]

Regarding this bug, it has been discovered before.

How is it the most exploitable? Utilizing slow speed Javelins with Warshrikes or Lacerators for incredible throwing speeds.

From a guide:

you can bug up your throwing weapon animations. If you switch around weapons in your hand (for example, picking one weapon up and putting it back down, or doing that a couple times), you'll throw different items with the same weapons. I could be using warshrike + lacerator, but I can make it look like I'm throwing two daggers, two axes, or an axe and a dagger. Other people in-game can see this bug as well.

So you can use a Wraith Flight and a Warshrike for ultra speedy lances.