How do they...

**mongerman** · 24-08-2007, 11:58

I'm recalling the 1st month of ladder, where I already see hammerdins with 15k hammers and enigma at WSK. And now I'm wondering, where do all the jahs and bers come from if HRs are so rare. Dupes, bought from online stores, or a pot of luck I am missing out on?

**Paladine** · 24-08-2007, 12:01

You hit the jackpot. Dupes, bought from online stores (which are dupes) and sadly no pot of luck you don't know about.

**LorveN** · 24-08-2007, 12:06

As soon as the first Jah or Ber is found, the guy who found it will find himself surrounded by people offering insane amounts of various currency for it. Those people will then make sure the rune multiplies in a forbidden way, and suddenly there are dozens of them on itemshops and trade channels on bnet.
Needless to say, those people are exploiting bugs, using hacks and other stuff decent people shouldn't be involved with.

'Bought from online stores' and 'dupes' have something in common...

**mongerman** · 24-08-2007, 12:49

Does this mean that a jah or ber traded on bnet is most likely a dupe? How am I going to make my enigma then...

**LorveN** · 24-08-2007, 13:23

Originally Posted by mongerman

Does this mean that a jah or ber traded on bnet is most likely a dupe? How am I going to make my enigma then...

Any high rune you encounter on bnet except for those you have found yourself (probably not that many?) are most likely dupes.
It is almost impossible making high end runewords like Enigma without using duped runes. The Last Wish runeword is just too much...

It seems like duping can't be totally prevented, and that is probably why the runewords contain the runes they do.
If you want an enigma, you have three choices:
1. Trade for a Jah and Ber, hope they won't poof, and make an enigma.
2. Trade for an already made enigma, most likely made from poofed runes, and hope nothing poofs on you.
3. Play for 5 years, hopefully you've found Jah and Ber, make an enigma, and be proud of it. :azn:

**mongerman** · 24-08-2007, 13:39

You mean to say duped runes already used in a runeword can poof as well?

**Darkflight** · 24-08-2007, 13:48

Originally Posted by mongerman

You mean to say duped runes already used in a runeword can poof as well?

Yes.

10chars

**mongerman** · 24-08-2007, 13:55

Man that just killed all my motivation to work for an enigma...

**illini irishman** · 24-08-2007, 17:39

I've heard that duped runes can't poof in runewords and obviously I've heard that they can poof. Has anyone ever had a rune in a runeword or the runeword itself poof on them? Just wondering