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    IncGamers Member Kijya's Avatar
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    Re: Amazon Tables (IAS, FCR, FHR, FBR, FRW and some more!)

    Sorry about missing your post mrstack ... bit to late now as I'm sure you've already found them long time ago, but anyway thanks for mentioning another table that might be a good idea to have included in the collection once I decide to update it :azn:

    Question about the strafe bug:
    Think I should remove all x/2 bp's or mark just mark them as bugged in the tables? (If marked as bugged I'd either give a brief explanation of it or link to a thread with more info ...)




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    Re: Amazon Tables (IAS, FCR, FHR, FBR, FRW and some more!)

    make note of them at the very least. you dont want people ragging on you for "forgetting" them.




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    Re: Amazon Tables (IAS, FCR, FHR, FBR, FRW and some more!)

    The bow strafe table edited, marked the bugged speed and linked to the demonstration video for the bug.

    Same for crossbows at /3 right?




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    Re: Amazon Tables (IAS, FCR, FHR, FBR, FRW and some more!)

    Sadly I think xbows are locked at /4. Still, 11/4 beats 16/4, kinda.




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    Re: Amazon Tables (IAS, FCR, FHR, FBR, FRW and some more!)

    Quote Originally Posted by YogiRat View Post
    Sadly I think xbows are locked at /4. Still, 11/4 beats 16/4, kinda.
    Agree. I recall hearing /3 was bugged for crossbows but can't put my hand on how to mark the tables. The line between /3 and /4 for a crossbow is kinda fussy compared to the bow /2 vs /3

    Maybe just a general mentioning without red linking the breakpoints themselves?




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    Re: Amazon Tables (IAS, FCR, FHR, FBR, FRW and some more!)

    Sorry for bumping an old thread. I just wanted to get some confirmation of the /2 breakpoints.

    I know they are bugged, but my understanding is that the first frame and follow up frame is ok it is just that the /2 part should be /3 (I.e 7/2 = 7/3) is this correct?



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    Re: Amazon Tables (IAS, FCR, FHR, FBR, FRW and some more!)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jcakes View Post
    Sorry for bumping an old thread. I just wanted to get some confirmation of the /2 breakpoints.

    I know they are bugged, but my understanding is that the first frame and follow up frame is ok it is just that the /2 part should be /3 (I.e 7/2 = 7/3) is this correct?
    The first attack may indeed be unbugged, but I cannot say that I know for sure. I do however know that 7/2 or 7/3 does not exist, the fastest speed before the /2 bug was discovered was 8/2.

    7/2 was and older belief that assumed that the strafe was a simple normal attack followed by faster follow ups, however it is not. It is split in a starting sequence, then it loops through a rollback function, and then it has some ending frames. This was found out by the people at the AB by viewing the game code. The y/x notation kinda got stuck though so today we use it as (starting + ending frames)/(rollback function loop time).



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    Re: Amazon Tables (IAS, FCR, FHR, FBR, FRW and some more!)

    Thaks for your quick response Kijya. I did actually know about the 7 frame not existing, it was a mistake by me. I was actually interested in if the 4,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2,2+4 attack would actually be 4,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3+4 (albiet with the bugged attack animation). It is not really a big issue either way, the difference between 4,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3+4 AND 4,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3+5 is essentially nothing.



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    Re: Amazon Tables (IAS, FCR, FHR, FBR, FRW and some more!)

    Sorry to bump this, but I wanted to say thanks to Kijya for organizing this.

    It is by far my favorite thread in the whole forums, very organized and covers all my Amazon needs.




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    Re: Amazon Tables (IAS, FCR, FHR, FBR, FRW and some more!)

    I'm sure no one minds a bump now and then, I don't at least

    Thanks for the kind words, glad you've found it useful.




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