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    Diablo: IncGamers Member CosmicallyDrifting's Avatar
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    VERY nice guide!

    Ive been engulfed by your videos, and have decided to make an asn just like yours! I got rid of my charger, my cold sorc, and 1/4th of my bowazon.

    I have the resources available at my fingertips, i just need your guidence.

    I know what i will use. There are just some things i'm confused on:

    Helm- For now, .08 valk It's the only thing i have. It belonged to my next-door neighboor who quit, so i don't know how logn its been in circulation as an end item, therefor i temp-perm it each game. Soon ill get my hands on a nice circlet, hopefully w/ 20% fcr.

    Ammy- Storm hide. It's also from my friend who quit. (he gave me some of his stuff. The rest he sold on ebay. Its a VERY good ammy, but im almost sure its duped :( My friend swares its legit, but i temp-perm it just to be sure.
    It's stats are: 2skills/20 str/15 dex/ 59life/30 mana/ 20 all res. (see why i perm it after each game ? ^^)


    Armor- Archon plate enigma (i can use w/o any points into str!!!!!)

    Belt- Arach

    Ring 1- Ravenfrost

    Ring 2- A nice rare (probably unperm :~ Not for sure tho.. ive left atleast 20 games w/ it and it is still on my mule)
    Stats: 10fcr/15 str/4 lifeleech/4 dex/ 10 all resists

    Boots- Ironically, the same ones mentioned in this guide _

    Gloves- Trangs

    Cta/spirit monarch on switch. 20/19 asn torch. 18/19/8 anni.

    9x life shadow gcs (working on them.. i hope i can find some atleast 35+)

    Maybe some res charms if i can get my hands on them.




    Claws- Help. Halp. Heolp. I kinda get the speeds, i just need to know, with this gear, what should my claw choices be? I want to hit the 4frame breakpoint, so i was thinking a Fury and chaos claw in the 2 topmost damaging claws. ( Don't know what those are. I think they are a type of elite Katar. Hopefully you can help)
    I saw the ias on Choas/Fury, they are high enough to get the bp i think, considering I dont know the base speeds of the claws i want... let alone the claws themselves...

    I could be compeltely wrong. I dont know :\



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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicallyDrifting View Post
    VERY nice guide!

    Ive been engulfed by your videos, and have decided to make an asn just like yours! I got rid of my charger, my cold sorc, and 1/4th of my bowazon.

    I have the resources available at my fingertips, i just need your guidence.

    I know what i will use. There are just some things i'm confused on:

    Helm- For now, .08 valk It's the only thing i have. It belonged to my next-door neighboor who quit, so i don't know how logn its been in circulation as an end item, therefor i temp-perm it each game. Soon ill get my hands on a nice circlet, hopefully w/ 20% fcr.

    Ammy- Storm hide. It's also from my friend who quit. (he gave me some of his stuff. The rest he sold on ebay. Its a VERY good ammy, but im almost sure its duped :( My friend swares its legit, but i temp-perm it just to be sure.
    It's stats are: 2skills/20 str/15 dex/ 59life/30 mana/ 20 all res. (see why i perm it after each game ? ^^)


    Armor- Archon plate enigma (i can use w/o any points into str!!!!!)

    Belt- Arach

    Ring 1- Ravenfrost

    Ring 2- A nice rare (probably unperm :~ Not for sure tho.. ive left atleast 20 games w/ it and it is still on my mule)
    Stats: 10fcr/15 str/4 lifeleech/4 dex/ 10 all resists

    Boots- Ironically, the same ones mentioned in this guide _

    Gloves- Trangs

    Cta/spirit monarch on switch. 20/19 asn torch. 18/19/8 anni.

    9x life shadow gcs (working on them.. i hope i can find some atleast 35+)

    Maybe some res charms if i can get my hands on them.




    Claws- Help. Halp. Heolp. I kinda get the speeds, i just need to know, with this gear, what should my claw choices be? I want to hit the 4frame breakpoint, so i was thinking a Fury and chaos claw in the 2 topmost damaging claws. ( Don't know what those are. I think they are a type of elite Katar. Hopefully you can help)
    I saw the ias on Choas/Fury, they are high enough to get the bp i think, considering I dont know the base speeds of the claws i want... let alone the claws themselves...

    I could be compeltely wrong. I dont know :\
    .08 valk works just fine. since valk has 10% extra fcr, you can use 2 ravenfrosts, which will let you use fury instead of a fools (normal 9 shadow gc sins can only use 1 raven frost and suffer greatly from lack of AR).

    with claws, the thing you need to worry about is hitting the trap placing BP. any chaos/fury will automatically hit the 4 frame ww bp. because you have a .08 valk with the 30% ias, you have a much wider selection of claws.

    the normal claw selection for 9 shadow gc sins is 2 GT's, which averages to -30 WSM and requires 42% IAS for 9 frame trap laying. since you have more IAS from the .08 valk, you can use slower (and stronger) claws.

    if you are going to use fury/chaos, if you put your fury as primary (as you should), you can use up to -20 average WSM. that means you can use 2 feral claws, a GT fury + wrist sword chaos, (etc). those 2 combos should be a good place to start.

    check out arreat summit and take a look at the claws, and then use the IAS calculator @ http://diablo2.ingame.de/tips/calcs/...p?lang=english if you want to check for the BP's for each of your claw combinations. just make sure you choose "trap placing" for the skill at the bottom.




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    Diablo: IncGamers Member CosmicallyDrifting's Avatar
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    Thanks so much! Just one more thing.

    I might have a possible circlet (seriously... what are the chances of a trader on the exact day i'm in need of an asn circlet )

    And...ummm... you might've said this in your guide, but which side is your primary weapon.. is it the right side of the character screen?

    And what do you reccomend as the primary. Chaos or Fury?


    thx again.

    Edit:Since the circlet is probably going to happen (YAY), I wont have any ias from my helm, so i dont know what claws I should use. Then again... the circlet im getting is almost the EXACT same as my .08 valk , just w/o the 2 shadow skills. Are the 2 skills really worth it?


    Anyways, i was thinking of a War Fist w/ a Suwayyah ... but now im unsure because i lost the 30 ias from my helm (if i decide to use circlet)

    Maybe 2x feral claws? Or a runic and Scissors suwayyah?

    I'm confuzzled.


    Last edited by CosmicallyDrifting; 21-08-2007 at 05:20.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicallyDrifting View Post
    Thanks so much! Just one more thing.

    I might have a possible circlet (seriously... what are the chances of a trader on the exact day i'm in need of an asn circlet )

    And...ummm... you might've said this in your guide, but which side is your primary weapon.. is it the right side of the character screen?


    thx again.
    the claw thats right above the gloves is the primary one




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    Ok... i see now. The 10fpa trap speed has a wide range. With 30 ias from my helm, i can reach 9fpa trap speed w/ a Runic Talon and Wrist sword. Also, w/ 30 ias from my helm, i can maximize my damage by using a war fist and a Runic talon, but only get 10fpa.

    If I go for my circlet, i can only reach a 10fpa trap laying speed, even with 2 of the fastest weapon (runic talon or Greater talon), i still can only get 10fpa.


    So it all boils down to this question:

    9fpa trap laying speed, or +2 skills from a circlet?
    Oo



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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicallyDrifting View Post
    Ok... i see now. The 10fpa trap speed has a wide range. With 30 ias from my helm, i can reach 9fpa trap speed w/ a Runic Talon and Wrist sword. Also, w/ 30 ias from my helm, i can maximize my damage by using a war fist and a Runic talon, but only get 10fpa.

    If I go for my circlet, i can only reach a 10fpa trap laying speed, even with 2 of the fastest weapon (runic talon or Greater talon), i still can only get 10fpa.


    So it all boils down to this question:

    9fpa trap laying speed, or +2 skills from a circlet?
    Oo
    you should probably stay away from runic talons (unless you get a lot of +dex), as you don't really benefit from the extra physical damage and will suffer from the stat reqs. usually GT's work better for 9 shadow gc builds like yours.

    people that use ghosts will always tell you to never settle for anything less than 9 frame traps. circlet builds use a 15res/15ias jewel in the circlet to give them 9 frame traps.

    my answer would be to get both +2 and 9 frame traps.




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    4102 life/ 638 mana with non-buffed BO (lvl 14)
    7130 WW AR
    3478-4610/2379-3214 WW Damage (Chaos/Fury)

    My life is only at around 3.6k (3.7k after I hit 90), is it because I'm using all 30 lifers instead of 40 lifers? I also see that your circlet is Jah'd and that would increase it. Well, I was just wondering cause I have lower life by around 0.3-0.5k from all of the "good" wwsin stats I've seen on the boards.

    7k AR comes from the AR/Life SCs right?

    And the 4.6k Chaos damage is because it's ebugged?




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    Quote Originally Posted by yelopen View Post
    4102 life/ 638 mana with non-buffed BO (lvl 14)
    7130 WW AR
    3478-4610/2379-3214 WW Damage (Chaos/Fury)

    My life is only at around 3.6k (3.7k after I hit 90), is it because I'm using all 30 lifers instead of 40 lifers? I also see that your circlet is Jah'd and that would increase it. Well, I was just wondering cause I have lower life by around 0.3-0.5k from all of the "good" wwsin stats I've seen on the boards.

    7k AR comes from the AR/Life SCs right?

    And the 4.6k Chaos damage is because it's ebugged?
    you should be able to break 4k life with 30 lifer shadows. are you using GT's? sdancers?




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    I use Runics and Sdancers and I have more life than Dave :P




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    Quote Originally Posted by TienJe View Post
    you should be able to break 4k life with 30 lifer shadows. are you using GT's? sdancers?
    My gear is:

    Fury Runic +2Venom/+2DF
    Fool's Runic +1Venom/+1MB/KB/40IAS/-30req/Um'd
    Chaos GT +2Venom/2MB/1DF
    Enigma MP
    2sin/20FCR/20STR/81Mana/15IAS/15Res
    26Res Maras
    20Dex Raven
    10FCR/19STR/37mana/18coldres Ring
    Trang Gloves
    2/22 Dancers

    GCs: 35/33/31/31/30/27/24/FHR/FHR
    SCs: 7x 16-20's, 1x 19/10fr, 1x 16/5cr, 1x 16/25ar

    I've got a total of 4 points in strength and 18 in dex, which, if I recall correctly, is less than how much Ollie's ghost had invested.

    I think one reason I might have lower life is because Smithenator told me not to build in Maras due because he thought I was going to make a WW/Trapper :undecided: I'm really not into using TGods much either, so a 15FCR amulet doesn't help much, and your Cat's Eye + Widowmaker thing, I just use a Hel'd one.

    Thats about...50 or so life right there but I dunno about the rest. All my lifers are actually 25-35 not 30+ but whatever.

    I also happen to have under max resists T.T

    I'm also building my Nec and it'll probably take the rest of my funds so I dunno if I'll be able to change anything anyways but we'll see




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