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    Bramle Or Enigma

    Hi, i am making a bearassasin and i am gonna use bos for sure, because i want a fastrunning bear this time. I am just doubting between using bramble or enigma on her, the rest of the gear is gonna look something like this.

    Helm : Kira's Guardian , ber
    Amulet: Angelics
    Armor: Enigma or bramble?????
    Weapon: Greater talons 40%ias 2s, with +2venom , jeweled 15ias/15res+Um
    Shield: Stormshield, -req/15ias jewel
    Gloves: Trang-ouls
    Belt: 24%fhr/10 ow/ 19str, 12life belt
    Boots: Shadowdancers,

    With Enigma i could go base str, while with bramble i have to invest 6x str wich is quite the life difference after bo, bear and lycanthrophy. Also with enigma i reach 50%dr and i gain 45 more frw , although i already run fast through bos. With Bramble i can easily reach the 151%fhr breakpoint instead of the 86 though.

    It also seems pretty damn hard to prebuff with bramble if i use enigma. I could do that but i won't be able to use the +2 shadow skills from the shadowdancers then. A normal assasin could use +3shadow/str amu and stuff for prebuff, but i aim for +allclass skills as prebuff like shako/mara's etc. , cause i can prebuff my venom and bear at the same time then.

    Now i really don't have a clue what the damage difference would be between
    1) a bramble using bear
    2) a eni using bear without bramble prebuff
    3) an eni using bear with bramble prebuff (i loose +4venom)

    If an assasin expert could give me some insight in the damage differences between these 3 , when i would prebuff with a +- slvl 45 venom i'd really appreciate it.

    Edit: For pure meleeduels i'd switch helm to chammed guillaume's and use fade for the loss in dr

    I think that bramble makes a pretty huge damage difference, and i am affraid i lack damage, so i am kind of leaning towards that at the moment, but i am really curious what you all have to say about this.



    Last edited by Gimmershred; 06-06-2007 at 23:58.

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    Bearassasin eh, sorry I'm not a WW sin expert (never played one outside of pvm), so I can't answer most of your questions.

    However, why are you even bothering to use a claw? If you're prebuffing the venom, you don't need a +venom claw. That claw isn't even "fool'd"

    If you like range one weapons, go for a death's web. In pure melee duels OW helps but not for you so much. You'll be standing there going hand to hand so OW doesn't help THAT much, I think facets would beat out UM's in this case. (You don't have the WW away option other sins do vs. melee which is why they have UM)

    But since you're a bear, you should try and find a range 3 or at least a range 2 weapon. You do lose your claw mastery (bummer :embarassed: ) but range is really important, (not to mention that claw doesn't seem so useful). Actually since you can't get any AR aside from your mastery ('cept enchant/gear), maybe you do have to stick with claw, I don't know :lipsrsealed:

    But get a fool's claw with IAS, damage, +stats Etc...

    1 question on the kira's guardian though, as a melee dueler why bother using a kira's? IMO a ber in a kira's is a waste, just switch to dr gear if you need it. I see no way in heck you're going to be killing Casters in bear form....



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    Ah, i forgot to mention that that claw has foolsmod. The +2 venom is just a nice add, the most important things are foolsmod and 55% ias. I can also get a 250%ed , fools, 40%ias runics with 1 socket, but i will have only 10% ow on my equipment then, and the physical damage is kind of low anyways.

    With the um and the ow belt i still have a nice 35%ctc ow, wich is nice in pvp in long duels anyways and beats the facet imho. It also gives me to option to retreat sometimes and let it drain a bit. It also is a nice add to the bladeshield i use, when i have trouble hitting people.

    All claws have range 2 as far as i know, so that should be alright. The reason i use the claw is because it hits a 3 frame attack. Death's web in bearform would be awfully slow.

    The kirás is to complement the allround setup (i mainly duel pubs) and get 75 all res in hell combined with some res sc'sm,
    if i go 1v1m vs meleechars i can always switch to the guillaume's

    I think i can lock up casters pretty nicely with a 3 frame attack, and i run pretty fast with bos and i get very nice life , fhr and max resist. So i don't see why i wouldn't be able to catch casters.

    I think i am pretty confident on all my gear except for the armor choice, so i would like to hear opinions about that.



    Last edited by Gimmershred; 07-06-2007 at 00:38.

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    Running fast won't catch any half decent caster. And 3frame attack? You might want to start worrying about next delay.... you'll approximately have a 4.5 frame attack rate..



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    Nextdelay doesn't apply to anything that doesn't have the nextdelay flag on it.

    Between the armours... having never built or even thought about a pvp bearsin... I'd have no idea between them .




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    I am also having a problem equipping prebuff equip. I need to put 63 points in str for normal equip and 86 points for prebuff. Shall i just put 86 points in str and socket the prebuff equip with poison facets or should i 2x fal the prebuff equip for 20 str and put 66 points in strength? 20 str would be 60 life that gets multiplied by bear/lycanthrophy and bo, so it's quite a lot i think.

    Also i am doubting about jewelry. I could take metalgrid 2xraven and use the 40 dex of ravens for maxblock and some more 35 all res from metalgrid is certainly nice. I think i still reach 15k ar then with the fools mod claw and without enchant. On the other hand the 75+20+20 life on angelics is also already 38 stats, and i reach over 2x k ar easily. So it's res vs ar really.




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    Does claw block work in bear form? If it does I would ditch the shield and get another claw. 60% block, including fireball, hammers, spirits, etc... without pumping dex. It's one of the coolest skills in the game. I don't know whether or not it works in bear form though.




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