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    poison or not

    hi everyone. played many bowazons but im getting ready to start my first javazon and i definately wanna use lightning fury. i am wondering to go with a poison and lightning build or just pure lightning.
    some gear i have saved up is...tgods belt,titans revenge, cats eye,bramble, coh,raven frost,laying of hands and draculs grasp,gores and war travs, stormshield..........any advice is greatly appreciated and thank u all




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    use razortail.

    i've not made a poison/lightning zon for pvm but they work.




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    My favorite Amazon is actually a Poison/Lightning/Ice Amazon, which is basically a Poison/Lightning Javazon with 1 point in Freezing Arrow and a 6-PSapphire Long Battle Bow on switch. Even if you forego the ice portion, Poison/Lightning is a very powerful combination that will pwn pretty much everything except Gloams.

    Then again, Pure Lightning is going to have a lot more raw power, as long as you have a means of dispatching LIs.




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    I am currently in late Nightmare with a Poison/Cold Hybrid and I gotta tell ya- I like the heck out of this build.

    You start out by lobbing a couple FA's into the crowd, then send in the big gun- the Plague or Poison Jav (depends of what kind of enemy(s)). You can literally walk around and watch their health bars dwindle- that includes bosses, although killing speed on large HP creatures is kinda slow. My favorite areas are places where you get swarmed. Send in one a FA, then a Plague jav and watch the bodies pile up. While you stroll around and pick up loot off the ground.

    Poison makes for a cool build and I recommend it highly.

    Also, Trang's gloves are nice if you have a set lying around.




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    Quote Originally Posted by WrongdayJ View Post
    Also, Trang's gloves are nice if you have a set lying around.
    Unless you're already packing +20 Javskills or so, some plain old +3 Javskills Gloves will boost your damage output more than Trang's.




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    I would have thought just a poison/strafe build would work wonders, especially if you're using gear with the blinding and/or fleeing mod.
    The silence runeword would probably be perfect for this.




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    Quote Originally Posted by SSoG View Post
    Unless you're already packing +20 Javskills or so, some plain old +3 Javskills Gloves will boost your damage output more than Trang's.

    I tried this out- I have a pair of +3's hanging on a mule. You are 100% correct. The damage output from the +skills trumps the Trangs bonus. Poison rate does go up and total damage goes up.

    The only draw back, if you can call it one at all, with +skills is that the Mana cost goes up for each usage as compared to the 'free' added damage of the Trangs. But it is rather insignificant. +skills > Trangs. Thanks SSoG!




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    i have a lvl 49 pvp plaguer and trangs give more damage than the pair of 2/20's i have. dont know if the same could be said for +3's though




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    Quote Originally Posted by WrongdayJ View Post
    I tried this out- I have a pair of +3's hanging on a mule. You are 100% correct. The damage output from the +skills trumps the Trangs bonus. Poison rate does go up and total damage goes up.

    The only draw back, if you can call it one at all, with +skills is that the Mana cost goes up for each usage as compared to the 'free' added damage of the Trangs. But it is rather insignificant. +skills > Trangs. Thanks SSoG!
    You're welcome. :smiley:

    Quote Originally Posted by crawlingdeadman View Post
    i have a lvl 49 pvp plaguer and trangs give more damage than the pair of 2/20's i have. dont know if the same could be said for +3's though
    I actually made myself an Excel Calculator designed to compare the effectiveness of +Skills vs. +%Poison Damage for all levels of all poison skills. Tell me what slvl of Plague Javelin you have (not counting the gloves), and tell me how much +% Poison Damage you have (not counting the gloves), and I could tell you for sure.




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    off the top of my head. i have 19 +jav skills (+4titans, +2valkwing, +1ammy, +2sojs, +10skillers). both plauge and poison jav are maxed.

    i guess my nearly 20 jav skills would fall under your example above then huh.




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